# Other Classical Languages **URL:** https://www.textkit.com/c/other-classical-languages/8.md [Latest](https://www.textkit.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://www.textkit.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://www.textkit.com/tags.md) --- ## [About the Other Classical Languages category](https://www.textkit.com/t/about-the-other-classical-languages-category/11)
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--- ## [Coptic Reading Group: Gospel of John, Chapter 1](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-reading-group-gospel-of-john-chapter-1/19259)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 21\ **Last updated:** [October 16, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-reading-group-gospel-of-john-chapter-1/19259 "2026-10-16T15:11:43Z")
This thread is for discussion about Chapter 1 of the Gospel according to John in Coptic. Whether you read Coptic or not, comments are welcome about the Coptic text itself, its relationship with other versions, etc. Hor… --- ## [2nd Book of Enoch in Old Church Slavonic](https://www.textkit.com/t/2nd-book-of-enoch-in-old-church-slavonic/31172)
**Author:** [@tomispev](https://www.textkit.com/u/tomispev)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [May 23, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/2nd-book-of-enoch-in-old-church-slavonic/31172 "2026-05-23T21:22:48Z")
I’ve uploaded a PDF of a new edition of the 2nd Book of Enoch, a.k.a. Slavonic Enoch to Google Drive: --- ## [Coptic thread](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-thread/18373)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 32\ **Last updated:** [January 18, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-thread/18373 "2025-01-18T23:04:51Z")
Once upon a time, my (Sahidic) Coptic reading skills were decent, but they now have somewhat deteriorated. In an attempt to reverse this downward trend, I’ll try to read rather extensively over at least the next couple o… --- ## [Reading the Coptic Gospel of Thomas with its Greek fragments?](https://www.textkit.com/t/reading-the-coptic-gospel-of-thomas-with-its-greek-fragments/20407)
**Author:** [@StC](https://www.textkit.com/u/StC)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [December 2, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/reading-the-coptic-gospel-of-thomas-with-its-greek-fragments/20407 "2023-12-02T14:54:25Z")
I am currently reading the second chapter of the Gospel according to John. After I have finished that, I would like to start reading the Coptic Gospel of Thomas (which is in the Nag Hammadi material), It is on top of my … --- ## [Mark 8:17](https://www.textkit.com/t/mark-8-17/20337)
**Author:** [@Jean\_Putmans](https://www.textkit.com/u/Jean_Putmans)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 23, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/mark-8-17/20337 "2023-09-23T07:39:55Z")
In Mark 8:17 the words νοειτε and συνιετε forced the Latin and Gothic translators to choose different renderings from the ones they usually choose (νοεω/συνιημι are both translated in all other instances in the NT: Vulga… --- ## [Ps.-Prochorus, Acts of John](https://www.textkit.com/t/ps-prochorus-acts-of-john/20225)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [September 7, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/ps-prochorus-acts-of-john/20225 "2023-09-07T15:20:56Z")
The Coptic translation of the Greek Acts of John can be read in its entirety in the Hamouli codex M576. A partial draft edition, up to f°14v, has kindly been put online by Alin Suciu and can be found here. The text open… --- ## [PAThs: Tracking Papyrus and Parchment Paths](https://www.textkit.com/t/paths-tracking-papyrus-and-parchment-paths/20279)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [August 28, 2023, 6:49am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/paths-tracking-papyrus-and-parchment-paths/20279 "2023-08-28T06:49:13Z")
A useful website given the often fragmentary nature of Coptic literary texts: https://atlas.paths-erc.eu/. At the moment, I’m using it mainly to check if additional fragments of a work I’m reading have been preserved. F… --- ## [The/Some Holy Spirit in Luke 1](https://www.textkit.com/t/the-some-holy-spirit-in-luke-1/20251)
**Author:** [@Altair](https://www.textkit.com/u/Altair)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/the-some-holy-spirit-in-luke-1/20251 "2023-08-21T18:35:17Z")
Shenoute has inspired me to work my way back to Coptic for a time through Lambdin’s Introduction to Sahidic Coptic. I want to post a couple of questions that have troubled me before I forget everything again. This firs… --- ## [Pesynthios to Peter: "Bring goat skins!"](https://www.textkit.com/t/pesynthios-to-peter-bring-goat-skins/18463)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [August 17, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/pesynthios-to-peter-bring-goat-skins/18463 "2023-08-17T15:53:40Z")
A nice ostracon kept at the Met (see here) and coming from the excavations conducted at the monastery of Epiphanius, on the western bank of the Nile, across Luxor, near Deir el-Bahari. If you’re interested in it, the res… --- ## [Lord's Prayer: Evil one vs. Evil and Sin vs. Transgression in Matthew 13](https://www.textkit.com/t/lords-prayer-evil-one-vs-evil-and-sin-vs-transgression-in-matthew-13/20252)
**Author:** [@Altair](https://www.textkit.com/u/Altair)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [August 15, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lords-prayer-evil-one-vs-evil-and-sin-vs-transgression-in-matthew-13/20252 "2023-08-15T20:26:37Z")
The end of the Lord’s Prayer in Matthew 6 is: ⲔⲰ ⲚⲀⲚ ⲈⲂⲞⲖ ⲚⲚⲈⲦⲈⲢⲞⲚ. ⲚⲐⲈ ϨⲰⲰⲚ ⲞⲚ ⲈⲦⲈⲚⲔⲰ ⲈⲂⲞⲖ \> ⲚⲚⲈⲦⲈⲞⲨⲚⲦⲀⲚ ⲈⲢⲞⲞⲨ\> . ⲚⲄⲦⲘϪⲒⲦⲚ ⲈϨⲞⲨⲚ ⲈⲠⲈⲒⲢⲀⲤⲘⲞⲤ. ⲀⲖⲖⲀ ⲚⲄⲚⲀϨⲘⲈⲚ ⲈⲂⲞⲖ \> ϨⲒⲦⲘ ⲠⲠⲞⲚⲎⲢⲞⲤ \> \> ϪⲈ ⲦⲰⲔ ⲦⲈ ⲦϬⲞⲘ ⲘⲚ ⲠⲈⲞⲞⲨ ϢⲀⲚⲒⲈⲚⲈϨ ϨⲀⲘⲎ… --- ## [Picking up Coptic Again](https://www.textkit.com/t/picking-up-coptic-again/20192)
**Author:** [@big\_anemone](https://www.textkit.com/u/big_anemone)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [July 23, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/picking-up-coptic-again/20192 "2023-07-23T08:34:59Z")
I’m writing up a quick summary of my return to Coptic, in case it’s useful to anyone now or in the future. I went through Lambdin’s textbook about 7 years ago, then fought my way through a couple gnostic texts before mo… --- ## [Coptic Sahidic Resources](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-sahidic-resources/18833)
**Author:** [@tomispev](https://www.textkit.com/u/tomispev)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [July 22, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-sahidic-resources/18833 "2023-07-22T19:26:38Z")
Here I’d like to share a few resources I often use in my study of Sahidic Coptic. I’ll probably be adding more over time. Dictionaries Coptic Dictionary Online Textbooks Coptic Beginner’s Notes Introduction to Sahid… --- ## [Mark 15.31 : remarcable Coptic and Gothic Variants](https://www.textkit.com/t/mark-15-31-remarcable-coptic-and-gothic-variants/19472)
**Author:** [@Jean\_Putmans](https://www.textkit.com/u/Jean_Putmans)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [November 18, 2022, 10:07am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/mark-15-31-remarcable-coptic-and-gothic-variants/19472 "2022-11-18T10:07:59Z")
In the Horner-Edition of the Southern Coptic NT-text (1921) Mk 15:31 has the English translation: „But likewise the chiefpriests also were mocking at him with the scribes, saying to one another, Others he delivered, but … --- ## [JOHN 1.8](https://www.textkit.com/t/john-1-8/19349)
**Author:** [@testsuda](https://www.textkit.com/u/testsuda)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [October 6, 2022, 9:18am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/john-1-8/19349 "2022-10-06T09:18:28Z")
Dear Friends, I have just read the John 1.8, the first clause of which is as below: ⲛⲉⲡ ⲉⲧ ⲙⲙⲁⲩ ⲁⲛ ⲡⲉ ⲡⲟⲩⲟⲉⲓⲛ Here we have the word ⲛⲉⲡ which makes me confused beccause I can not identify it in terms of grammar. The n… --- ## [PLEASE HELP ME TO OVERCOME THIS STUFF](https://www.textkit.com/t/please-help-me-to-overcome-this-stuff/19337)
**Author:** [@testsuda](https://www.textkit.com/u/testsuda)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [September 30, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/please-help-me-to-overcome-this-stuff/19337 "2022-09-30T16:22:15Z")
Dear all, I now have about 10 years learning classical languages. First I learnt Pali and now am teaching Pali for Buddhist monks/nuns and laypeople. I could read biblical Latin, Greek, Old English fluently and improvin… --- ## [Coptic Reading Group: Gospel of John, Chapter 2](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-reading-group-gospel-of-john-chapter-2/19296)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 9, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-reading-group-gospel-of-john-chapter-2/19296 "2022-09-09T08:53:40Z")
This thread is for discussion about Chapter 2 of the Gospel according to John in Coptic. Whether you read Coptic or not, questions and comments about the Coptic text itself, its relationship with other versions, etc., a… --- ## [Mighty deeds and miracles by Saint Apa Phoebammon](https://www.textkit.com/t/mighty-deeds-and-miracles-by-saint-apa-phoebammon/19287)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [September 8, 2022, 6:48am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/mighty-deeds-and-miracles-by-saint-apa-phoebammon/19287 "2022-09-08T06:48:58Z")
I have read K. Verrone’s Mighty deeds and miracles by Saint Apa Phoebammon, an edition of a short text found in Ms. Pierpont Morgan M582 from Hamuli, in the Fayum. The book has been made available on Alin Suciu’s blog. T… --- ## [Back to Coptic](https://www.textkit.com/t/back-to-coptic/19238)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [August 22, 2022, 6:50am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/back-to-coptic/19238 "2022-08-22T06:50:54Z")
I’m back to Coptic after a long interruption. I’ve spent the last couple of weeks getting back into things, mainly by reading Mark, as well as large parts of Luke and Acts. I’ll probably be reading some OT books over the… --- ## [Reading Joshua in Sahidic](https://www.textkit.com/t/reading-joshua-in-sahidic/19240)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [August 19, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/reading-joshua-in-sahidic/19240 "2022-08-19T19:17:52Z")
The state of Sahidic Joshua is pretty typical for the Sahidic Old Testament, i.e. no manuscript of the book has been preserved in full. The reader has to hop between several partially preserved witnesses to read (almost)… --- ## [ⲞⲨⲀⲒ, ⲤⲚⲀⲨ, ϢⲞⲘⲦ](https://www.textkit.com/t/topic/18574)
**Author:** [@jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/u/jeidsath)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [May 4, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/topic/18574 "2022-05-04T05:55:37Z")
Dear Friends, I am pleased to announce a new publication from the Polis Institute Press, ⲞⲨⲀⲒ, ⲤⲚⲀⲨ, ϢⲞⲘⲦ: ⲞⲨϪⲰⲘ ⲚⲤⲀϪⲒ ⲚⲘⲈⲦⲢⲘⲚⲬⲎⲘⲒ (One, Two, Three: Practice Book in Spoken Coptic), which is available in paperback at A… --- ## [Coptic rendered into Hieroglyphs just for fun](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-rendered-into-hieroglyphs-just-for-fun/18795)
**Author:** [@tomispev](https://www.textkit.com/u/tomispev)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [December 7, 2021, 8:11am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-rendered-into-hieroglyphs-just-for-fun/18795 "2021-12-07T08:11:18Z")
As I’m learning Coptic I’m also adding the etymology to my list of words and also to the bottom of my flashcards. I’ve been studying Middle Egyptian for over a year now, so I already know how to read Hieroglyphs, Hierati… --- ## [Coptic (Sahidic) verb tenses cheatsheet](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-sahidic-verb-tenses-cheatsheet/18789)
**Author:** [@tomispev](https://www.textkit.com/u/tomispev)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [December 4, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/coptic-sahidic-verb-tenses-cheatsheet/18789 "2021-12-04T10:34:02Z")
I made this cheatsheet of Coptic Sahidic verb tenses, without a verb and only for the 3rd person singular masculine, to help me understand and memorize them. I hope someone will find it useful and also maybe spot some mi… --- ## [Martyrdom of Saint Coluthus](https://www.textkit.com/t/martyrdom-of-saint-coluthus/18449)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [June 3, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/martyrdom-of-saint-coluthus/18449 "2021-06-03T18:39:45Z")
I’ve been reading the Martyrdom of Saint Coluthus. It is a short text, and a rather unusual martyrdom in that it consists almost entirely of a dialogue between Arianus, the governor, and Coluthus, the former trying to co… --- ## [From Coptic to Arabic, from "Isauria" to "the city of treasures"](https://www.textkit.com/t/from-coptic-to-arabic-from-isauria-to-the-city-of-treasures/18431)
**Author:** [@Shenoute](https://www.textkit.com/u/Shenoute)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [June 2, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/from-coptic-to-arabic-from-isauria-to-the-city-of-treasures/18431 "2021-06-02T18:24:49Z")
I am currently reading Ugo Zanetti’s translation of an Arabic manuscript containing a series of miracles performed by Saint Coluthus (available here). Some of these come from the encomium by Isaac of Antinoe I mentioned … --- ## [Frange's Ostracon](https://www.textkit.com/t/franges-ostracon/18411)
**Author:** [@seanjonesbw](https://www.textkit.com/u/seanjonesbw)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [May 6, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/franges-ostracon/18411 "2021-05-06T06:36:36Z")
I visited the National Museum of Scotland today, which reopened its Egyptian gallery not long before the plague arrived last year. It’s a really nice little gallery with objects from every period, including a small displ…