# Greek **URL:** https://www.textkit.com/c/greek/6.md [Latest](https://www.textkit.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://www.textkit.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://www.textkit.com/tags.md) --- ## [About the Greek category](https://www.textkit.com/t/about-the-greek-category/9)
**Author:** [@system](https://www.textkit.com/u/system)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/about-the-greek-category/9 "2026-08-06T20:01:24Z")
Post new topics in one of the sub-categories (ie., Learning Greek, Homeric Greek, etc.) --- ## [Lysias 12.37: I'm struggline with a translation](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-37-im-struggline-with-a-translation/31301)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-37-im-struggline-with-a-translation/31301 "2026-10-23T13:40:37Z")
ἐγὼ τοίνυν, ὦ ἄνδρες δικασταί, ἠξίουν ἱκανὰ εἶναι τὰ κατηγορημένα: μέχρι γὰρ τούτου νομίζω χρῆναι κατηγορεῖν, ἕως ἂν θανάτου δόξῃ τῷ φεύγοντι ἄξια εἰργάσθαι. I’m unsure about the following, and fearful that I may have… --- ## [Luke 10:18, an Imperfect Indicative followed by an Aorist Pariticiple](https://www.textkit.com/t/luke-10-18-an-imperfect-indicative-followed-by-an-aorist-pariticiple/31299)
**Author:** [@Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/u/Lukas)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [October 21, 2026, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/luke-10-18-an-imperfect-indicative-followed-by-an-aorist-pariticiple/31299 "2026-10-21T14:37:24Z")
Χαίρετε! I usually do not ask about κοινή Greek since I am trying to learn Attic but want to ask what I should consider when a main indicative verb in the imperfect is followed by an aorist participle: “εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς… --- ## [Hebrews 2:10 participle](https://www.textkit.com/t/hebrews-2-10-participle/31294)
**Author:** [@Mitch](https://www.textkit.com/u/Mitch)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [October 16, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/hebrews-2-10-participle/31294 "2026-10-16T13:11:49Z")
Ἔπρεπεν γὰρ αὐτῷ, διʼ ὃν τὰ πάντα καὶ διʼ οὗ τὰ πάντα, πολλοὺς υἱοὺς εἰς δόξαν ἀγαγόντα τὸν ἀρχηγὸν τῆς σωτηρίας αὐτῶν διὰ παθημάτων τελειῶσαι. I’m struggling to understand why ἀγαγόντα is acc. here. Is this an example … --- ## [Yet another note on AI](https://www.textkit.com/t/yet-another-note-on-ai/31232)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [October 8, 2026, 1:52am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/yet-another-note-on-ai/31232 "2026-10-08T01:52:50Z")
I insert a query like this: translate into English: ὑφ᾽ ὧν ἐκεῖνοι παρὰ πᾶσαν ἐπιβουλευόμενοι τὴν ὁδὸν With both google ai and Chatgpt my query starts a conversation. If ai asks for the source, I just type in, for exam… --- ## [Lysias 12.24 content-deleted](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-24-content-deleted/31292)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 7, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-24-content-deleted/31292 "2026-10-07T13:38:00Z")
Content deleted. posted in error. --- ## [Herodotus 5.71, growing one's hair long](https://www.textkit.com/t/herodotus-5-71-growing-ones-hair-long/31291)
**Author:** [@Paul\_Derouda](https://www.textkit.com/u/Paul_Derouda)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 6, 2026, 8:47am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/herodotus-5-71-growing-ones-hair-long/31291 "2026-10-06T08:47:54Z")
ἦν Κύλων τῶν Ἀθηναίων ἀνὴρ Ὀλυμπιονίκης: οὗτος ἐπὶ τυραννίδι ἐκόμησε, προσποιησάμενος δὲ ἑταιρηίην τῶν ἡλικιωτέων καταλαβεῖν τὴν ἀκρόπολιν ἐπειρήθη, οὐ δυνάμενος δὲ ἐπικρατῆσαι ἱκέτης ἵζετο πρὸς τὸ ἄγαλμα. “Kylon grew h… --- ## [Lysias 12.20 difficult clause](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-20-difficult-clause/31290)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 4, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-20-difficult-clause/31290 "2026-10-04T21:11:05Z")
Here is the immediate context. In this forensic oration, Lysias, a metic (resident alien in Athens) has been describing the injustices heaped on him by the defendant in the trial. Then Lysias declares: τοιούτων ἠξίωσαν… --- ## [Typing Ancient Greek](https://www.textkit.com/t/typing-ancient-greek/20575)
**Author:** [@jeidsath](https://www.textkit.com/u/jeidsath)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [October 4, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/typing-ancient-greek/20575 "2026-10-04T13:32:58Z")
I am making this topic a sticky because the topic is important, not because this initial post is so important, and I hope that others chime in with their strategies. Windows Built-in Keyboard Typing Ancient (Polytonic… --- ## [Grammar error in A Greek Boy at Home](https://www.textkit.com/t/grammar-error-in-a-greek-boy-at-home/31279)
**Author:** [@xiaq](https://www.textkit.com/u/xiaq)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [September 20, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/grammar-error-in-a-greek-boy-at-home/31279 "2026-09-20T20:04:54Z")
I’m recording a reading of A Greek Boy at Home and I can’t help but notice what seems to be a pretty obvious grammar errors in ΙΙΙΓ: On line 11: τὀ δ᾽ αὐτὸ ποιοῦμεν καὶ ἡμᾶς I’m sure the last word can only be ἡμε… --- ## [An interesting book on the pre-Socratics, fragments, and more](https://www.textkit.com/t/an-interesting-book-on-the-pre-socratics-fragments-and-more/31276)
**Author:** [@KHay](https://www.textkit.com/u/KHay)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [September 16, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/an-interesting-book-on-the-pre-socratics-fragments-and-more/31276 "2026-09-16T20:51:31Z")
Well, not much more. I have such an interesting short book by Edward Hussey entitled The Presocratics, 1972 (some time ago!). I just thought that anyone delving into these philosophers might enjoy this book, if not known… --- ## [Greek Aljamiado](https://www.textkit.com/t/greek-aljamiado/31278)
**Author:** [@SameUsernameOnReddit](https://www.textkit.com/u/SameUsernameOnReddit)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 16, 2026, 6:16pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/greek-aljamiado/31278 "2026-09-16T18:16:56Z")
Just found out about Greek Aljamiado, seemingly late Byzantine-to-Modern Greek written in Arabic script. There doesn’t seem to be much about this online at all, so I was wondering if some of you had heard of it, experien… --- ## [Luke Ranieri's method for learning Ancient Greek](https://www.textkit.com/t/luke-ranieris-method-for-learning-ancient-greek/20699)
**Author:** [@Joseph1770](https://www.textkit.com/u/Joseph1770)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [September 15, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/luke-ranieris-method-for-learning-ancient-greek/20699 "2026-09-15T15:34:48Z")
Some time ago Luke Ranieri from the Youtube channel Polymathy published this spreadsheet that orders different books to learn Ancient Greek and achieve reading fluency: http://bit.ly/ranieri-roberts-approach \_“The essen… --- ## ["Choral practice"](https://www.textkit.com/t/choral-practice/31269)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 6, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/choral-practice/31269 "2026-09-06T03:16:50Z")
When, long ago in a galaxy far away, I taught a course in history of education, in preparing the course, I encountered a teaching method called choral practice. That’s not choral in the sense of choir singing, but in t… --- ## [On first looking into Homer's Homer](https://www.textkit.com/t/on-first-looking-into-homers-homer/31245)
**Author:** [@Petrarch101](https://www.textkit.com/u/Petrarch101)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [August 26, 2026, 5:45pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/on-first-looking-into-homers-homer/31245 "2026-08-26T17:45:21Z")
I have just turned my attention to Homer, Odyssey, after spending the last few years reading Plato. I was nervous about learning a new dialect. I thought I’d look at Herodotus first, though again I was nervous that learn… --- ## [Lysias 12.27 "Against Eratosthenes"](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-27-against-eratosthenes/31261)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 22, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lysias-12-27-against-eratosthenes/31261 "2026-08-22T19:28:15Z")
This is a forensic speech in prosecution of Eratosthenes, a member of the The Thirty. It is not contested that Eratosthenes killed Polemarchus. Eratosthenes pleads that he was following orders from the Thirty. And decl… --- ## [More on the Odyssey (both Homer’s and Nolan’s)](https://www.textkit.com/t/more-on-the-odyssey-both-homer-s-and-nolan-s/31264)
**Author:** [@mwh](https://www.textkit.com/u/mwh)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2026, 7:19pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/more-on-the-odyssey-both-homer-s-and-nolan-s/31264 "2026-08-21T19:19:12Z")
Just in case there’s appetite for more, here’s a good piece by a UCLA colleague of mine. “ ‘I am become a name’: Odysseus for better, for worse, and for everything in between” Published: August 18, 2026 By Professor S… --- ## [Emily Wilson's Translation of The Iliad](https://www.textkit.com/t/emily-wilsons-translation-of-the-iliad/20260)
**Author:** [@Ahab](https://www.textkit.com/u/Ahab)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2026, 4:13pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/emily-wilsons-translation-of-the-iliad/20260 "2026-08-21T16:13:32Z")
Saw this quote from her new translation of The Iliad: Goddess, sing of the cataclysmic wrath of Peleus’ son Achilles, cause of so much suffering for the Greeks, that sent many strong souls to Hades," Here is the the … --- ## [Facing Iliad and Odyssey: Homeric Greek, scholarly Latin letters](https://www.textkit.com/t/facing-iliad-and-odyssey-homeric-greek-scholarly-latin-letters/31265)
**Author:** [@dodonov93](https://www.textkit.com/u/dodonov93)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2026, 3:29pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/facing-iliad-and-odyssey-homeric-greek-scholarly-latin-letters/31265 "2026-08-21T15:29:30Z")
I wanted to read Homer looking at the Greek, without already knowing every letter-shape, and without a laptop-only three-column page that falls apart on a phone. I could not find that layout, so I built one. It has th… --- ## [Plato reading after Euthypro, Apologia, Crito](https://www.textkit.com/t/plato-reading-after-euthypro-apologia-crito/31254)
**Author:** [@levi\_ke](https://www.textkit.com/u/levi_ke)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [August 21, 2026, 10:28am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/plato-reading-after-euthypro-apologia-crito/31254 "2026-08-21T10:28:39Z")
I’ve read Euthyphro, Apologia, Crito from Plato’s works and now I’d like to continue with other Plato’s texts. Could you recommend the next text to continue with? Which dialogue is the best (appropriate difficulty level… --- ## [Best practices or personal preferences for interlinear texts?](https://www.textkit.com/t/best-practices-or-personal-preferences-for-interlinear-texts/18873)
**Author:** [@bcrowell](https://www.textkit.com/u/bcrowell)\ **Replies:** 19\ **Last updated:** [August 20, 2026, 6:57am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/best-practices-or-personal-preferences-for-interlinear-texts/18873 "2026-08-20T06:57:58Z")
Interlinear texts are great for people with little or no knowledge of a language. For example, I have zero knowledge of Hebrew, but I can look at an interlinear Genesis https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1.htm and … --- ## [Plato’s Symposium - Reading Group](https://www.textkit.com/t/plato-s-symposium-reading-group/31258)
**Author:** [@pddcva](https://www.textkit.com/u/pddcva)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [August 17, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/plato-s-symposium-reading-group/31258 "2026-08-17T18:38:16Z")
Anyone interested in reading Plato’s Symposium in Ancient Greek over six months or so (2 stephanus page numbers per week) please let me know. I was thinking of using Louise Pratt’s Eros at the Banquet, backed up by Stea… --- ## [Μή in doubtful assertions and fear clauses?](https://www.textkit.com/t/in-doubtful-assertions-and-fear-clauses/31252)
**Author:** [@Lukas](https://www.textkit.com/u/Lukas)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 14, 2026, 4:15am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/in-doubtful-assertions-and-fear-clauses/31252 "2026-08-14T04:15:44Z")
Until I started learning about subjunctives, μή was used as a non-factual negative. With doubtful assertions and fear clauses, μή alone is not a negative. Why is that? --- ## [If you like reading history or political science: Isocrates's Panegyricus](https://www.textkit.com/t/if-you-like-reading-history-or-political-science-isocratess-panegyricus/31238)
**Author:** [@hlawson38](https://www.textkit.com/u/hlawson38)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [August 12, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/if-you-like-reading-history-or-political-science-isocratess-panegyricus/31238 "2026-08-12T03:21:10Z")
Isocrates’s Panegyricus advocates a Hellenic confederation under Athenian leadership for the purpose of opposition to the Persians. I think the ideas in this speech are comprehensible to readers of history or political … --- ## [Herodotus Book 1](https://www.textkit.com/t/herodotus-book-1/31242)
**Author:** [@markcmueller](https://www.textkit.com/u/markcmueller)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/herodotus-book-1/31242 "2026-08-10T22:04:14Z")
I just finished Book 1 of the Histories. I was surprised by the size of the vocabulary. It seems to me that Herodotus uses a fair amount of synonyms. It would not be surprising if he avoided using the same words in cl… --- ## [New philosophical dialogue in Ancient Greek](https://www.textkit.com/t/new-philosophical-dialogue-in-ancient-greek/31251)
**Author:** [@cb1](https://www.textkit.com/u/cb1)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [August 9, 2026, 5:47am UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/new-philosophical-dialogue-in-ancient-greek/31251 "2026-08-09T05:47:07Z")
Hi all, in case anyone is interested in reading a new work in Ancient Greek, I have just posted on archive.org my first full-length philosophical dialogue (in Ancient Greek, with an English translation) on an original ph… --- ## [When was 'The Odyssey' given its final form (in which it is read today)?](https://www.textkit.com/t/when-was-the-odyssey-given-its-final-form-in-which-it-is-read-today/31234)
**Author:** [@KHay](https://www.textkit.com/u/KHay)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/when-was-the-odyssey-given-its-final-form-in-which-it-is-read-today/31234 "2026-08-06T20:47:56Z")
I should probably just stop right here, after asking the question in the title! But I am curious about this matter of ‘The Odyssey’ having been told orally for centuries; if that is wholly true, then the dialect of its … --- ## [Thoughts on 2nd year Koine readers?](https://www.textkit.com/t/thoughts-on-2nd-year-koine-readers/31206)
**Author:** [@akhnaten](https://www.textkit.com/u/akhnaten)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [August 6, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/thoughts-on-2nd-year-koine-readers/31206 "2026-08-06T18:00:37Z")
I finished Croy and for a couple years read 20-30 minutes almost daily from a UBS Reader’s NT or selections from the LXX. I would generally have a public-domain commentary to help with the Greek. I expanded my vocab and … --- ## [Lucian, πῶς δεῖ ἱστορίαν συγγραφεῖν, 10](https://www.textkit.com/t/lucian-10/31241)
**Author:** [@ducky123](https://www.textkit.com/u/ducky123)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [August 2, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/lucian-10/31241 "2026-08-02T17:19:48Z")
I’m trying to understand παρ᾿ ἑκάτερον below, is it something like ‘and the (use) of praises is especially irksome in either case for the audience’ or and the (use) of praises every other sentence is especially irksom… --- ## [Hesiod, Works and Days, 107-108](https://www.textkit.com/t/hesiod-works-and-days-107-108/31233)
**Author:** [@Hortensius](https://www.textkit.com/u/Hortensius)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [July 28, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.textkit.com/t/hesiod-works-and-days-107-108/31233 "2026-07-28T14:16:50Z")
I am searching for help with this passage in Hesiod, Works and Days, 107-108 σὺ δʼ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν. ὡς ὁμόθεν γεγάασι θεοὶ θνητοί τʼ ἄνθρωποι. Q1: Is βάλλεο 2nd ps imperative or indicative? And is the -εο end… [Next page](https://www.textkit.com/c/greek/6.md?page=1)