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Demonstrative Pronouns - Lesson VIII

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Demonstrative Pronouns - Lesson VIII

Postby psilord » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:48 am

Hello,

I have some questions concerning pronouns.....

Basically, how can [face=SPIonic]o(, h(, to/[/face] mean BOTH 'this', and 'that'? I see that it seemingly means 'this' much more often than 'that' and [face=SPIonic]kei=noj[/face] specifically means 'that'. When would I use the former or the latter when trying to represent 'that'?

Also, what exactly is the relationship between table 765 and 774? I'm not sure what to use for 'this'.... The lesson forces me to learn 774, but I don't seem to use it in the actual excersizes since it looks like it is using stuff out of 765 and nothing out of 774.

Thanks.
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Re: Demonstrative Pronouns - Lesson VIII

Postby annis » Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:27 am

psilord wrote:Basically, how can [face=SPIonic]o(, h(, to/[/face] mean BOTH 'this', and 'that'?


Well, that's just a way to try to point at the true sense. We know in Homer that set doesn't yet mean just "the", but it is heading that way. So it's a "weak" demonstrative. You'll have to decide whether "this" or "that" makes better sense when you translate. It'll just as often mean "him" or "her."

I see that it seemingly means 'this' much more often than 'that' and [face=SPIonic]kei=noj[/face] specifically means 'that'. When would I use the former or the latter when trying to represent 'that'?


I would say [face=SPIonic]kei=noj[/face] is more what we expect in English of "that" and "those."
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