Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν δίκαιον

[uberdwayne]

Hey all,

I'm reading through 1 John 2 and I'm having trouble understanding the last part of the first verse.

καὶ ἐάν τις ἁμαρτῃ παραάκλητον ἔχομεν πρὸς τὸν πατέρα, Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν δίκαιον

The issue I'm having is, how does " Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν " relate to the following adjective "δίκαιον". I'm assuming that Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν is a single substantive and that this is possibly an object - complement, but that doesn't seem to help me understand what John meant when he wrote " Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν δίκαιον". Maybe I'm entirely wrong and its simply an attributive adjective. Also, My english translation has "Jesus Christ the Righteous" how come they use the definite article here? Anyway, I'm stuck, can anyone offer some assistance?

[Markos]

Hi, Uberdwayne,

Let me ask you a question. If John had written

καὶ ἐάν τις ἁμαρτῃ παράκλητον ἔχομεν πρὸς τὸν πατέρα. καὶ ὁ παράκλητος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός ἐστιν. καὶ Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς δίκαιός ἐστιν.

would you have any trouble understanding what he meant?

[uberdwayne]

would you have any trouble understanding what he meant?

I understand what your saying in the rewritten phrase... But how does that work into the actual phrase from 1 John 2?

[Markos]

I understand what your saying in the rewritten phrase... But how does that work into the actual phrase from 1 John 2?

I may be wrong, but I think that they mean basically the same thing.

[uberdwayne]

Ahhh I see.... That would make Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν a predicate accusative, same with δίκαιον

σοι εθχαριστω,

Ο Δευαινος

[Markos]

Ahhh I see.... That would make Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν a predicate accusative, same with δίκαιον

πάνυ γε.

σοι εθχαριστω

καἰ σοι, φίλτατε!

[uberdwayne]

τις "φιλτατε" εστιν και "γε" εστιν;

[Markos]

τις "φιλτατε" εστιν και "γε" εστιν

χαιρε

καλα μεν ουν ερωτηματα συ ηρωτησας με. νυν δε αποκρινομαι σε. το «φιλτατε» εστιν το «ὦ φίλος μου.» περι δε του «γε» τουτο λεγω. πολλακις το «γε» σημαινει ουδεν. «ευγε αγαθε δουλε» σημαινε «ευ αγαθε δουλε.» «δοκει εμοιγε» σημαινει «δοκει εμοι.» «πανυ γε» ουν «πανυ» εστιν.

ιθι πολλα χαιρων.

[uberdwayne]

ευχαριστω παλιν σε εγω,

λογοι σου πολλυς εστιν, λογοι μου οι μικροι!

[Markos]

λογοι σου πολλυς εστιν, λογοι μου οι μικροι!

οὐχί. καλῶς σὺ γράφεις. πάντας γὰρ τοὺς λόγους σου καταλαμβάνω.

εἰ θέλεις γράφειν τοῖς φίλοις, δύνασαι γράφειν ὥδε:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10710&start=120

κατὰ με, γράφων πολλάκις δυνήσῃ ἀναγιγνώσκειν εὐκοποτερως.

ἔρρωσο, φίλατε.