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Postby Lavrentivs » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:45 pm

λεκτέον δ᾽ ἐπιστήσασι σαφέστερον περὶ αὐτῶν.

Why is this an aor?
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Re: aor

Postby annis » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:13 pm

What do you expect instead of the aorist, and why? (Something is) to be said to understand about these (matters) better. It seems expected here, so I'm not sure how to answer your question without more info.
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Re: aor

Postby Lavrentivs » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:55 pm

<We> who understand them must speak more clearly about these things.

I expected imperfect, since I assumed that the understanding referred to was an enduring state. Perhaps: we who have understood them?
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Re: aor

Postby annis » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:56 pm

Lavrentivs wrote:<We> who understand them must speak more clearly about these things.

I expected imperfect, since I assumed that the understanding referred to was an enduring state. Perhaps: we who have understood them?


Ahh. You are mixing lexical aspect — the inherent meaning of the verb — and grammatical aspect, which is related to how we organize our discourse. I can say, "I was sleeping last night" or "I slept last night." Both sentences describe situations of identical duration. The different aspect choices are about presentation, not (necessarily) actual duration.
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Re: aor

Postby Lavrentivs » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:24 pm

So what is the difference between this and the same sentence with imperfect?
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