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Postby Lavrentivs » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Pl. Ap. 24b4:

αὕτη ἔστω ἱκανή ἀπολογία πρὸς ὑμᾶς: πρὸς δὲ Μέλητον ..

Let this apology before you be sufficient; but against Meletum ..

Here two occurrences of πρός with only one word separating them is used in two different senses. My quæstion: is this a figure of speech with a Greek name?

(How does one produce an ἄνω τελεία (upper dot) in Windows?)
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Re: figure?

Postby Cheiromancer » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:20 pm

To make an interpunct, type ALT+0183. It·will·give·you·little·dots·like·this.

I am not sure about whether there is a play in words at this point of the Apology. Suppose Socrates had said (in English)

Let this apology be enough for you; as for Meletus...

This sounds to me like ordinary prose. The double use of "for" in close proximity to one another doesn't seem remarkable.
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Re: figure?

Postby Markos » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:42 pm

τὸ μὲν οὖν τούτου τοῦ σκήματος ὄνομα οὐκ οἶδα. οἱ μὲν Βρεττανικοὶ οὕτως λαλοῦσιν, οἱ δὲ Ἕλληνες συχνοτέρως.

{ I’m not sure if there is a name for this or not. I agree with Cheiromancer that we do this in English, but it seems to me that it occurs more often in Greek. }
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Re: figure?

Postby Akemdwr » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:36 pm

Lavrentivs wrote:Pl. Ap. 24b4:
How does one produce an ἄνω τελεία (upper dot) in Windows?

If you use polytonic greek keyboard in Windows, press AltGr+Shift+]
And that will be the very ἄνω τελεία, not something like ἄνω τελεία
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