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Postby tadwelessar » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:44 pm

A few years ago I played "dequoter 1.0", a computer game where you have to decrypt a code. crypted phrases are famous quotes and I wrote them because I like quotes very much. This afternoon I found the sheet where I wrote that quotes and I would like to ask if you know the original greek version of:

I have hardly ever known a matematician who was capable of reasoning
- Plato

I like him very much as you know ("medeis or oudeis" do you remember)?

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Postby tadwelessar » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:20 pm

I found the book:

Plato, The Republic, book 7, sct. 531e

Have you got it?
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Postby tadwelessar » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:39 pm

I found that "address" in a website but I visited http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/pt ... ction=531e
and I couldn't found the phrase
Can you help me?
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Postby Emma_85 » Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:50 pm

do you know for sure it's in book 7?
edit: i've found it
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Postby Emma_85 » Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:12 pm

The quote you want is not on that page, though. It's just in the english commentary I'm afraid. I was confused, too, at first :P (see my above post).
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Postby tadwelessar » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:07 pm

You mean Plato didn't say that phrase?
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Postby Emma_85 » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:35 pm

Oh no, he did indeed, but not there (at least all I can see is the commentary, but not the quote in Greek). He said that, but maybe somewhere else, the commentry is refering to this quote, though.

Unless this is the quote:

For you surely do not suppose that experts in these matters are reasoners and dialecticians.
[face=spionic]ou) ga/r pou dokou=si/ ge/ soi oi( tau=ta deinoi\ dialektikoi\ ei)=nai.[/face]

If that's the quote, then the translation you have is a very loose one indeed.
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Postby tadwelessar » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:49 pm

Sorry, Emma, can u edit your greek text and write it a little bigger? It's really uncomprehensible.
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Postby mingshey » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:40 pm

tadwelessar wrote:Sorry, Emma, can u edit your greek text and write it a little bigger? It's really uncomprehensible.
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Click the "quote" button and you can edit the quoted text. Like this:

[face=spionic]ou) ga/r pou dokou=si/ ge/ soi oi( tau=ta deinoi\ dialektikoi\ ei]nai.[/face]

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Postby tadwelessar » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:37 pm

I’m afraid you’re wrong, I think the quote is

ei mê mála gè tínes olígoi hôn entetychêka

It litterally means “except a very few whom I have met”; the few (olígoi) are the mathematicians who are capable of reasoning, that’s because it was difficult to find the quote in the text, the phrase alone doesn’t make sense, you must know the words related to the pronoun.

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