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Postby mingshey » Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:49 am

[face=SPIonic]h(/lioj[/face] appears as [face=SPIonic]h)e/lioj[/face] in Homer. Is the pair of initial vowels [face=SPIonic]he[/face] just a very long 'e', or is it the relic of the old attic spelling([face=SPIonic]h[/face] for 'h', and [face=SPIonic]e[/face] for both short and long 'e')?
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Postby Skylax » Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:03 pm

My sources say that [face=SPIonic]h(/lioj - h)e/lioj[/face] are from *sa:welios (Gothic sauil, LITHUANIAN sáulè, Latin sol.

Evolution : *sa:welios > *ha:welios or *he:welios.

The "w" between vowels disappears from almost all dialects.
The "h" can disappear(1), Doric Greek [face=SPIonic]a)e/lioj[/face], Homeric [face=SPIonic]h)e/lioj[/face]. Attic contracted the vowels and maintained the rough breathing.

(1) see aoidoi.org : http://www.aoidoi.org/articles/lesbian.php about Aeolic "psilosis".
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Postby annis » Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:08 pm

Skylax wrote:My sources say that [face=SPIonic]h(/lioj - h)e/lioj[/face] are from *sa:welios (Gothic sauil, LITHUANIAN sáulè, Latin sol.

Evolution : *sa:welios > *ha:welios or *he:welios.


Gosh. What source is that?! I love reconstructive linguistics.
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Postby Skylax » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:14 pm

It wasn't terrible anyway : LSJ and Michel LEJEUNE, Traité de Phonétique grecque, Paris, Klincksieck, 1947.
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Aye, thanks!

Postby mingshey » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:42 pm

Thanks, Skylax! Meloves etymology, too. I''ll have to look up if there's an English translation of the Lejeune's.
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Postby annis » Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:31 am

I suppose some day I'll have to hunt down the Buck dictionary to feed this habit.
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