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3rd Conj. Deponent Verbs?

Postby ethan101097 » Sat May 14, 2011 2:45 pm

In Wheelock I see no explicit examples of deponent verbs that have 3rd conjugation (i.e. long "e" instead of "-bi") future indicative forms. Are all deponent verbs 1st and 2nd conjugation (can't be!)? How can one tell what conjugation a deponent verb is? Here is my guess:
hortor, hortari, hortatus sum = 1st conj.
fateor, fateri, fassus sum, = 2nd conj.
patior, pati, passus sum = 3rd conj.
molior, moliri, molitus sum = 4th conj.

If this is correct, how is the future indicative of patior conjugated: pateor, pateris, patetur, patemur, patemini, patentur? What about "-io" verbs of the third conjugation? I think that I am really only concerned this point with the future indicative, but if there are any other issues this raises please let me know; questions breed questions, lol!

Thanks all,
-elm
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Re: 3rd Conj. Deponent Verbs?

Postby adrianus » Sat May 14, 2011 5:31 pm

ethan101097 wrote:Here is my guess:
hortor, hortari, hortatus sum = 1st conj.
fateor, fateri, fassus sum, = 2nd conj.
patior, pati, passus sum = 3rd conj.
molior, moliri, molitus sum = 4th conj.

If this is correct, how is the future indicative of patior conjugated: pateor, pateris, patetur, patemur, patemini, patentur?

You're right about the conjugations but the future indicative of patior is "patiar, patiēris, patiētur, patiēmur, patiēminī, patientur", as are all third conjugation verbs in the passive (or active, talking about deponents), including "-io" ones.

De numero omnis conjugationis rectè dicis, at contrà cum futuro tempore patior verbi deponentis quod sic declinatur: "patiar, patiēris, patiētur, patiēmur, patiēminī, patientur", sicut omnia tertiae conjugationis verba (passivâ voce, etsi activâ dicitur in deponentium tractando), non minùs ea per "-io" terminata.
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Re: 3rd Conj. Deponent Verbs?

Postby adrianus » Sat May 14, 2011 5:54 pm

[Accidentally double posted. // Eandem epistulam casù emisi]

Addendum (I'll use the post anyway // epistulâ tamen utar)
Note that "patior" is an "-io" verb of the third conjugation, in a way, except it's a deponent!
Potes dicere, nota, "patior" verbum tertiae declinationis in "-io" terminatum esse, si praecipuo modo id habes, etsi deponens verum est.
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Re: 3rd Conj. Deponent Verbs?

Postby ethan101097 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:27 pm

Ohhhh, that makes sense. The patiar threw me off because of the "a", but 3rd conj fut. 1st person singular ends in -am when active so it makes sense that there would be an a in the passive, duh! Thanks for the correction; I can tell which conjugation the deponent verbs belong to now, hooray!
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