Hi All
I am a long time lurker first time poster who finds himself stymied by two words at the beginning of the Phaedo:
τί οὖν δή ἐστιν ἅττα εἶπεν ὁ ἀνὴρ πρὸ τοῦ θανάτου; καὶ πῶς ἐτελεύτα; ἡδέως γὰρ ἂν ἐγὼ ἀκούσαιμι. καὶ γὰρ οὔτε [τῶν πολιτῶν] Φλειασίων οὐδεὶς πάνυ τι ἐπιχωριάζει τὰ νῦν Ἀθήναζε, οὔτε τις ξένος ἀφῖκται χρόνου συχνοῦ
The problem is "πάνυ τι" I just cannot figure this out. Are the two linked and thus form some sort of idiomatic expression or are they separate? The translation given at Perseus gives "at all" (I think) as a translation but I am having a hard time seeing where this is coming from, at least given the lexicon definition of "altogether/entirely". Does "τι" merely intensify in this case?
Thank you for any help!
Ryan
Phaedo 57a
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Re: Phaedo 57a
ἔγραψας σύ.
ναί.Does "τι" merely intensify in this case?
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Re: Phaedo 57a
When we have something like that, neither none of = neither anyone of..., οὐ πάνυ τι means literallyedmondsr wrote:καὶ γὰρ οὔτε [τῶν πολιτῶν] Φλειασίων οὐδεὶς πάνυ τι ἐπιχωριάζει τὰ νῦν Ἀθήναζε
not quite, but implying not at all, as Mark said.
LSJ I.3. sts. with litotes, not quite, implying 'not at all'
Nate.