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Some points / questions from Orberg LLPSI Cap. XXII

Postby pmda » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:36 pm

Hi, Here are some points / questions I have re LLPSI Cap XXII. I have in all cases tried to answer them and provide some reasoning for my approach. I'd appreciate any guidance as to where I'm wrong / right. Thanks.

1) Ianitor tabellarium, qui ad villam Iulium venit, rogat: "Quid [neutrum] vis aut quem [masculinum] quaeris?"

Cur'quem' et non 'quid' in parte secunda setentiae est? Is it 'whom do you seek' as opposed to 'what do you seek'? These are interrogative prononuns, right?


2) Deinde Tabellarius nominum suum dixit. Ianitor qui nomen eius non audire potest inquit "Quid dicis"? Estne 'Quid' neutrum accusativum pronomen interrogativum?


3) Tlepolimus nomen suum rursus dixit: 'Mihi nomen est Tlepolemus, sicut iam dictum est.' Estne 'dictum' perfectum participium neutrum? Could he have said 'Mihi nomen est Tlepolemus, sicum iam dictus es' ?


4) Pallium Tabellarii a cano sciditum est.

The tabellarius says to the Ianitor: '..vestem scindere potuit: videsne pallium meum novum, quod nuper magno pretio emi, scissum esse a cane tuo'

the neuter. perf. pass. part. of scindo, scindere, scindi, scissum is: scissum esse, right?

It's infinitive ('esse') because of the clause 'videsne.....', right?


5) The pres. ind. act of the verb 'prehendo' appears to be mostly the same as the perf. indic. active.

Phendit means 'he/ she / it takes or took - so far as I can gather. But I'm not sure what the 3rd pers. plural. perf. ind. act of prehendo, prehendere is. Can someone enlighten me?

6) Orberg has the sentence: 'Sed quid tu venisti?' Is this simply another way of saying 'cur to venisti' ? Is it declined...?

7) Orberg has: 'Multa sunt faciliora dictu quam factu'.

Estne 'faciliora' neutrum, nominativum pluralum? '[default gender for such unspecified things that are easier said than done??]
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Re: Some points / questions from Orberg LLPSI Cap. XXII

Postby Nooj » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:29 pm

Cur'quem' et non 'quid' in parte secunda setentiae est? Is it 'whom do you seek' as opposed to 'what do you seek'? These are interrogative prononuns, right?
Very much so. Quem quaeris is asking for a person, quid vis is asking 'what do you want'?

Estne 'Quid' neutrum accusativum pronomen interrogativum?
Recte.

Estne 'dictum' perfectum participium neutrum?
Recte.

Could he have said 'Mihi nomen est Tlepolemus, sicum iam dictus es' ?
Dictus es is passive, it means 'you were said'. The correct conjugation would be 'sicut iam dixisti'.

the neuter. perf. pass. part. of scindo, scindere, scindi, scissum is: scissum esse, right?

Recte. It would not be sciditum but scissum est.

It's infinitive ('esse') because of the clause 'videsne.....', right?
Recte. It's indirect speech.
But I'm not sure what the 3rd pers. plural. perf. ind. act of prehendo, prehendere is.
Prehenderunt.
6) Orberg has the sentence: 'Sed quid tu venisti?' Is this simply another way of saying 'cur to venisti' ? Is it declined...?
Yes. Quid can also mean cur/quare.

FYI, quid is an accusative and it gets turned into an adverb. This happens in Greek as well. τί is an interrogative pronoun just like quis meaning who/what? but the accusative adverb comes to mean why.


Estne 'faciliora' neutrum, nominativum pluralum? '[default gender for such unspecified things that are easier said than done??]
recte.
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Re: Some points / questions from Orberg LLPSI Cap. XXII

Postby Perseus » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:14 am

Have you seen this dedicated forum to LLPSI?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11400
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