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LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby brookter » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:48 pm

Salvēte, amīcī,

In Lingua Latīna, cap. XI,, all the indirect discourse using dīcit has the reported speech in quotation marks.

e.g. Medicus 'puerum dormire' dīcit.

This is only used for forms of dīcere - e.g. there are no quotation marks when iubet is used.

Is this standard practice? I couldn't find it anywhere in Allen and Greenhough and it looks odd (although that doesn't of course make it wrong...).

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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby adrianus » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:19 pm

Salve brookter
It's not usual but it's very understandable.
Cotidianum non est atqui adusquè cognobile.
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby brookter » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:22 pm

adrianus wrote:Salve brookter
It's not usual but it's very understandable.
Cotidianum non est atqui adusquè cognobile.


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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby adrianus » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:31 pm

No problem, David. Sorry, I missed your first name above.
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby furrykef » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:55 am

The convention that LLPSI uses is to use single quotes for indirect speech and double quotes for direct speech.
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby brookter » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:11 am

furrykef wrote:The convention that LLPSI uses is to use single quotes for indirect speech and double quotes for direct speech.


Thanks, furrykef.

I was wondering if the convention was widespread, or whether it was just something Oerberg adopted as a teaching convenience. I believe classical latin had few if any punctuation marks, so if the usage is widespread, I wondered when it was introduced.

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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby furrykef » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:20 am

I haven't seen it elsewhere, but my experience with Latin texts is rather limited. It's worth noting that Orberg does continue using this convention in De Bello Gallico and likely in Part II as well, so it isn't necessarily intended as a learners' crutch.
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby brookter » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:03 am

furrykef wrote:I haven't seen it elsewhere, but my experience with Latin texts is rather limited. It's worth noting that Orberg does continue using this convention in De Bello Gallico and likely in Part II as well, so it isn't necessarily intended as a learners' crutch.


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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby Hampie » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:00 pm

There are no ‹standard way› for Latin. No standard spelling, no standard interpunction, etc. etc., so evert writer and publisher do what he or she feels is the best, thus you will encounder many different ways. But, that does not have to be a bad thing, does it? For once you can spell and interpunctuate like you want to ;). Personally I like to use french colons and quotation marks whenever writing latin.
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby Perseus » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:22 am

Have you seen this dedicated forum to LLPSI?
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby furrykef » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:05 pm

Perseus, I really don't think it's good form to spam that link in every post that deals with LLPSI...
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Re: LLPSI - quotation marks in indirect discourse

Postby Perseus » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:26 pm

sorry for that, I am not a spammer, just wanted to let them know about it as this is just one day old!
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