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Marcus magistrum scribere (?)

Postby pmda » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:43 am

In Orberg LLPSI he has: 'Marcus magistrum scribere animadvertit eumque interrogat: "Quid tu scribis, magister?"

I would have written this 'Marcus magistrum scribentem animadvertit....' Why is 'scribere' in the present infinitive? Surely it's a participle and should be written 'scribentem'?? Or is this some version of infinitive + accusative...but it doesn't make sense to me because that's only used when the action is being reported or commented on by a third person: Marcus 'magistrum scribere' dicit.
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Re: Marcus magistrum scribere (?)

Postby furrykef » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:59 am

pmda wrote:In Orberg LLPSI he has: 'Marcus magistrum scribere animadvertit eumque interrogat: "Quid tu scribis, magister?"

I would have written this 'Marcus magistrum scribentem animadvertit....' Why is 'scribere' in the present infinitive? Surely it's a participle and should be written 'scribentem'??


Mārcus magistrum scrībere animadvertit: "Marcus notices that the teacher is writing"
Mārcus magistrum scrībentem animadvertit: "Marcus notices the writing teacher", or maybe "Marcus notices the teacher as he writes"

Does this help? Compare e.g. "Videō tē scrībere", "I see that you are writing".

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Re: Marcus magistrum scribere (?)

Postby pmda » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:16 am

Thanks furrykef - that makes perfect sense.
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Re: Marcus magistrum scribere (?)

Postby Craig_Thomas » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:32 am

The acc. + inf. construction isn't just for speech, but also for various types of perception and mental action. It's found pretty much anywhere where in English you say "he [verb] that", e.g., he saw that..., he heard that..., he imagined that..., he thought that..., he knew that..., he hoped that..., he discovered that..., he threatened that..., he promised that..., etc. It's very common.
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Re: Marcus magistrum scribere (?)

Postby pmda » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:14 am

Thanks Craig...very helpful..
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