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Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Thersites » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:04 am

I just bought this book after hearing that it was good for taking the step from learning beginners' Latin to polishing up in preparation for the full-on classical texts, but have a small problem. The exercises have no answers, and I can't find an answer key on the internet!

Am I just being spoilt in expecting, as with most of the other modern introductory courses to Latin, that there is available either in the book itself or separately suggested answers? Clearly this was a book once used widely in classrooms and as such the teacher would be expected to provide answers, but is there no hope for an autodidact such as myself?

Does anyone know where I can get some answers to the exercises in the bloody thing? Or am I condemned to writing out my answers and hoping I'm not making howling errors along the road?

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Carolus Raeticus » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:32 pm

Salve Thersites!

If you mean the book "Latin Sentence and Idiom: A Composition Course" by R. Colebourn you're probably out of luck. An answer key has been published by the author (as "A key to Latin sentence and idiom" in 1956 and 1963 and as "Key to the continuous prose passages in 'Latin sentence and idiom'" in 1952). Unfortunately, these do not seem to be readily available as far as I can tell from search results from Google Books and various online "Used books" web-sites.

So, you either work through it without key (and ask for help on this forum if you have serious doubts in some cases) or you switch to a different text book for which an answer key is available.

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby furrykef » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:10 pm

Carolus Raeticus wrote:So, you either work through it without key (and ask for help on this forum if you have serious doubts in some cases)

I strongly recommend against this. It's easy to make a lot of mistakes without ever realizing it. Even Benissimus's old answer key for Wheelock had what seemed to be a few clear mistakes in it as a result of attempting this.

Have you tried contacting the publisher? Or is the publisher not around anymore?
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Interaxus » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:29 pm

Don't despair!

Good old Patruus has included it in his collection of fantastic Latin answer keys:

http://cid-7c51d883593d5954.office.live ... 3D5954!142

I can't understand why Textkit hasn't yet set up a link to such keys somewhere on the site. How difficult would that be?

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Carolus Raeticus » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:45 am

Salve Interaxe!

I did not know about that resource! Cool.

Interaxus wrote:I can't understand why Textkit hasn't yet set up a link to such keys somewhere on the site. How difficult would that be?

I heartily agree with you. I believe that a small but good link list would be very useful for the users. Right now, such links are spread through various postings. In my opinion putting them in one - prominent - place (NOT a posting) would be better. One of the links should refer to Ed Donnelly's wonderful list of downloadable Latin (and Greek) text books in the public domain.

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Thersites » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:25 pm

Thank you all very much indeed for your replies. They were all extremely helpful - particularly Interaxus who, beyond all expectations, actually came up with the answer key! I'd long since begun to doubt it was any longer available. But thank you to all of you who replied, it was greatly appreciated.

I've read a fair bit of the book so far without attempting the exercises, and found it to be an excellent follow-on from the introductory course I did (So You Really Want to Learn Latin). So I'm very pleased I can now get stuck into the exercises.

Oncer again, thank you very much.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Effi » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:34 pm

Hi, I have tried the link provided by Interaxus, but it doesn't seem to be working for me :( Can anyone help, please? I get terribly stuck at some points with the exercises and I'm probably making many more mistakes than I realize...Thank you!
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Effi » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:51 pm

Thank you very much! This is so helpful!!
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby nachtebuch » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:33 pm

Wow. That is a brilliant resource. Thank you so much for sharing this! I'm looking to fine-tune my Latin (it's really bad even after two text modules at uni) so this is going to be really, really helpful.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Cicero wannabe » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:10 pm

Hi, a key to the Colebourn prose comp book would be very useful, but both of the links in this chain don't seem to be working for me. can anyone suggest a current way of getting hold of it?
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Interaxus » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:07 pm

Cicero wannabe:

Send me your email address in a Textkit PM and I'll send you the pdf.

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby EtTuBrute » Wed May 27, 2015 6:32 am

I would really like a copy too. I'm teaching myself Latin and am about to finish Hilllard & Botting's Elementary Latin Exercises. I own Colebourn, but don't have the key.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby sarahelliot » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:41 pm

Hi, Could I possibly have the key as well? I can't use private messages yet though as I've just joined the site - is there another way to send the PDF?
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby phalanx » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:06 pm

I'm also trying to find an answer key for Colebourn - but, oddly enough, the links here take me to a key for Bennett instead! Am I missing something?? I would be very grateful indeed for a Colebourn key. Thanks, all, for your help.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby epbeastie » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:28 pm

Salve
I can't use either of these links, does anyone have another live one for the key to Colebourn Latin Sentence and Idiom?
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby doniol » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:07 pm

Salvete omnes,
Try this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryap4ieiucer2 ... y.pdf?dl=0
Best of luck with this. Colebourn's is an excellent book; sums up all the important points of syntax in a concise and memorable form.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby ÓBuadhaigh » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:29 pm

doniol wrote:Salvete omnes,
Try this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryap4ieiucer2 ... y.pdf?dl=0
Best of luck with this. Colebourn's is an excellent book; sums up all the important points of syntax in a concise and memorable form.
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Thanks for posting this, doniol. I have the books but never entertained any hope of finding a key.
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby jaumefuste » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:00 pm

Thank you very much! The Dropbox link worked for me. Right now I'm following Moreland & Fleischer's 'LATIN An Intensive Course' by myself. I'm able to do so only because I could get the key to the answers. Now I will be able to do the same later with Colebourn's book. So thank you!

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby ÓBuadhaigh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:33 pm

Jaume, where did you get the key to M&F? How complete was it? There was a good key online a few years back but it disappeared without a trace!

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby jaumefuste » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:50 pm

Hi, ÓBuadhaigh. Follow this link:

http://individual.utoronto.ca/ajhicks/m ... scher.html

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby ÓBuadhaigh » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:31 pm

Thanks for this, Jaume. It's not a full key, but something is better than nothing. :D
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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby Interaxus » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:47 pm

Here's a DropBox link to an M&F Key that seems pretty complete. Hope it fills in the gaps.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/etib9lmbxnwc ... 6mJCa?dl=0

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby ÓBuadhaigh » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:14 pm

Interaxus, I have no idea how you found this - for I certainly looked - but it looks to me like a copy of the one which disappeared from Oxford University's website when they did their reorganisation a few years ago. Many, many thanks for this.

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Re: Colebourn's "Latin Sentence and Idiom"

Postby jaumefuste » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:08 pm

Thank you, Interaxus!

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