Mystery Quote
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Mystery Quote
Hi, everyone. I'm trying to put together my group's newsletter (by Friday), and one of the contributors wants to include a phrase often quoted by one of his professors long ago... only he can't remember the exact quote, or who originally said it. ::cough:: I'm hoping it will sound familiar to someone here. If you can tell me who said it, fantastic. If you've got the actual Greek text, well, you're my hero. It's something like, "Who has not been flayed has not been educated". That's all I know.
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Wunderbar ! Darf ich gratulieren ? Can you please tell me how you managed to find it ?
I had found a sentence in Aristophanes, Wasps, 1297 :
[size=150]παῖδα γάρ, κἂν ᾖ γέρων, καλεῖν δίκαιον ὅστις πληγὰς λάβῃ[/size]
"Boy (with a play on the words παίς "boy, child" , "young slave"and παίω "to hit") is the right name of the one, even if he is old, who gets kicked."
A Menander-like sentence used in school, found in a papyrus:
[size=150]φιλοπόνει, ὦ παῖ, μὴ δαρῇς[/size]
"Work hard, boy, for not to be flayed"
And Aristotle said the same in a more polite manner (Politics, 1339 a 28 ) :
[size=150]μετὰ λύπης γὰρ ἡ μάθησις[/size]
"For there is no learning without pain." (I would say in French : "car la douleur est le prix de l'instruction").
I had found a sentence in Aristophanes, Wasps, 1297 :
[size=150]παῖδα γάρ, κἂν ᾖ γέρων, καλεῖν δίκαιον ὅστις πληγὰς λάβῃ[/size]
"Boy (with a play on the words παίς "boy, child" , "young slave"and παίω "to hit") is the right name of the one, even if he is old, who gets kicked."
A Menander-like sentence used in school, found in a papyrus:
[size=150]φιλοπόνει, ὦ παῖ, μὴ δαρῇς[/size]
"Work hard, boy, for not to be flayed"
And Aristotle said the same in a more polite manner (Politics, 1339 a 28 ) :
[size=150]μετὰ λύπης γὰρ ἡ μάθησις[/size]
"For there is no learning without pain." (I would say in French : "car la douleur est le prix de l'instruction").
Last edited by Skylax on Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Hurray, Emma!
That was exactly the one I was looking for (although I rather like the one about learning and pain as well!). Thank you so much. You're officially my hero!
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