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Nocte iube me dormire

Postby pmda » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:50 am

This sentence in Orberg's LLPSI has me a bit stumped.

Quintus says:

Nocte iube me dormire.

Now I think he means something like 'At night I must sleep'. But 'Iube' is Imperative (active) so is 'iube' like 'necesse' in necesse est (and is the 'necesse' in 'necesse est' an imperative?)? - I never thought about it.

Strictly speaking it seems to make no sense. 'Iube' is an order. Yet he's referring to himself.
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire

Postby Nooj » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:07 am

pmda wrote:This sentence in Orberg's LLPSI has me a bit stumped.

Quintus says:

Nocte iube me dormire.

Now I think he means something like 'At night I must sleep'. But 'Iube' is Imperative (active) so is 'iube' like 'necesse' in necesse est (and is the 'necesse' in 'necesse est' an imperative?)? - I never thought about it.

Strictly speaking it seems to make no sense. 'Iube' is an order. Yet he's referring to himself.


Quintus is telling someone else to order him to sleep.
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire

Postby pmda » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:45 pm

Thanks. I suppose it's an idiomatic thing.... 'When it's night, tell me to sleep' like is a soliloquy, right?
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire

Postby adrianus » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:18 pm

Salve pmda

Where (what chapter and section) is the sentence in Orberg?
Ubi (in quo capitulo et quâ sectione) est ea sententia apud Orberg(ensem)?
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire

Postby furrykef » Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:20 pm

Chapter 13, line 141. Fuller context:

Aemilia: "Sed hoc satis est. Iam necesse est tē dormīre."
[...]
Quīntus: "Sed diēs est. Sōl lūcet. Nocte iubē mē dormīre, cum sōl in caelō nōn est!"

Quintus's issue here is clearly that, in his view, Aemilia told him to sleep at the wrong time. So Quintus is simply telling her to do it at a more appropriate time. I don't think idiom or anything like that even enters the picture...
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