This sentence in Orberg's LLPSI has me a bit stumped.
Quintus says:
Nocte iube me dormire.
Now I think he means something like 'At night I must sleep'. But 'Iube' is Imperative (active) so is 'iube' like 'necesse' in necesse est (and is the 'necesse' in 'necesse est' an imperative?)? - I never thought about it.
Strictly speaking it seems to make no sense. 'Iube' is an order. Yet he's referring to himself.
Nocte iube me dormire
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire
Quintus is telling someone else to order him to sleep.pmda wrote:This sentence in Orberg's LLPSI has me a bit stumped.
Quintus says:
Nocte iube me dormire.
Now I think he means something like 'At night I must sleep'. But 'Iube' is Imperative (active) so is 'iube' like 'necesse' in necesse est (and is the 'necesse' in 'necesse est' an imperative?)? - I never thought about it.
Strictly speaking it seems to make no sense. 'Iube' is an order. Yet he's referring to himself.
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire
Thanks. I suppose it's an idiomatic thing.... 'When it's night, tell me to sleep' like is a soliloquy, right?
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire
Salve pmda
Where (what chapter and section) is the sentence in Orberg?
Ubi (in quo capitulo et quâ sectione) est ea sententia apud Orberg(ensem)?
Where (what chapter and section) is the sentence in Orberg?
Ubi (in quo capitulo et quâ sectione) est ea sententia apud Orberg(ensem)?
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Re: Nocte iube me dormire
Chapter 13, line 141. Fuller context:
Aemilia: "Sed hoc satis est. Iam necesse est tē dormīre."
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Quīntus: "Sed diēs est. Sōl lūcet. Nocte iubē mē dormīre, cum sōl in caelō nōn est!"
Quintus's issue here is clearly that, in his view, Aemilia told him to sleep at the wrong time. So Quintus is simply telling her to do it at a more appropriate time. I don't think idiom or anything like that even enters the picture...
Aemilia: "Sed hoc satis est. Iam necesse est tē dormīre."
[...]
Quīntus: "Sed diēs est. Sōl lūcet. Nocte iubē mē dormīre, cum sōl in caelō nōn est!"
Quintus's issue here is clearly that, in his view, Aemilia told him to sleep at the wrong time. So Quintus is simply telling her to do it at a more appropriate time. I don't think idiom or anything like that even enters the picture...