Hi everyone! I'm new here... I'm Spanish
I came for a question I had in mind about relative clauses. I was wondering if you can use an adverb instead of the relative pronoun. For example, can you say:
This is the city where I live.
Haec est civitas ubi vivo.
Or you have to say something like:
Haec est civitas in qua vivo.
(This is the city in which I live.)
In the same way, could you say "The day when he came." as "Dies (ubi?) venit.", or "Dies in qua venit."
How to say "when"?
Thank you in advanced.
Hello! A question about relative clauses
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Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Hi Eandir, welcome
I'm just a beginner, but I'll try to answer your questions. If I'm wrong, please guys correct me.
I can't answer about the other one. Dies cum venit? I'd say so, but I may be wrong.
I'm just a beginner, but I'll try to answer your questions. If I'm wrong, please guys correct me.
I've seen ubi used in these situations before so I'd say it's fully OK.Haec est civitas ubi vivo.
I can't answer about the other one. Dies cum venit? I'd say so, but I may be wrong.
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Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Ok! Thank you a lot!
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Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Atque ille eo tempore paruit, cum parere senatui necesse erat - Cicero Pro Ligario 7.20
potuitne illo die, cum est lata lex de me, - Cicero Pro Milone 14.38
Videamus nunc (id quod caput est) locus ad insidias ille ipse, ubi congressi sunt - Cicero pro Milone 20.53
311. Relative Claues are introduced by Relative Pronouns, Adjectives, or Adverbs. - New Latin Grammar, Charles E. Bennett
The answer would seem to be a resounding yes!!!
potuitne illo die, cum est lata lex de me, - Cicero Pro Milone 14.38
Videamus nunc (id quod caput est) locus ad insidias ille ipse, ubi congressi sunt - Cicero pro Milone 20.53
311. Relative Claues are introduced by Relative Pronouns, Adjectives, or Adverbs. - New Latin Grammar, Charles E. Bennett
The answer would seem to be a resounding yes!!!
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Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses
As Ptolemyauletes and loqu say. And regarding the above, "dies quâ venit" without the preposition is also sufficient, unless I'm mistaken, because the ablative in itself without a preposition can express time when, as "die Mercuri", "on Wednesday".Eandir wrote:"Dies in qua venit."
Ut dicunt ptolemyauletes et loqu. Et quoad rem suprà citatam, et sufficit "dies quâ venit", nisi fallor, eâ ratione casus ablativus in ipso sine praepositione tempus cum exprimere potest, sicut "die Mercuri".
I'm writing in Latin hoping for correction, and not because I'm confident in how I express myself. Latinè scribo ut ab omnibus corrigar, non quod confidenter me exprimam.
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Re: Hello! A question about relative clauses
Thank everyone a lot !