one more quotation from tibullus (via orberg).
Quis fuit horrendos primus qui protulit enses.?
Quam ferus et vere ferreus ille fuit.
Tum caedes hominum generi tum proelia nata,
tum brevior dirae mortis aperta via est.
Who was the first to produce the terrible swords.?
How really cruel was that wild beast.
Both the murder of human beings and the beginning
of war open the short way to an awful death.
Again thanks for your help.