Textkit Logo

Required Texts for Scholiastae

Textkit is a learning community- introduce yourself here. Use the Open Board to introduce yourself, chat about off-topic issues and get to know each other.

Moderators: thesaurus, Jeff Tirey

Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby annis » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:24 pm

Until now I've only been putting up texts on Scholiastae for which I already had notes in waiting. So, they've been very small. My next step is to upload a few of the major texts and do light markup to make them easy to add scholia to (i.e., divided into sections neatly, etc., etc.). Which works seem fundamental? Here's my current thinking —

Greek: Iliad, Odyssey - just because I'm a fanatic Homerist. It's my site, so nyah. For prose, Xenophon's bloody Anabasis should probably be high on the list. Maybe a few particularly famous speeches, but I'm not up on the orators.

Latin: Caesar's bloody Bellum Helveticum and probably the Aeneid. Nepos is also high on the list. Someone who loves Cicero more than me will have to decide which of his works are fundamental.

Any suggestions? Without enumerating the entire classical canon, that is?
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
τίς πατέρ' αἰνήσει εἰ μὴ κακοδαίμονες υἱοί;
annis
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 3397
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:55 pm
Location: Madison, WI, USA

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby thesaurus » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:00 pm

For Cicero perhaps the well-worn In Catilinam series could be nice, especially the first. I like murder defenses, so Pro Milone and Pro Caelio are quite nice.
Horae quidem cedunt et dies et menses et anni, nec praeteritum tempus umquam revertitur nec quid sequatur sciri potest. Quod cuique temporis ad vivendum datur, eo debet esse contentus. --Cicero, De Senectute
thesaurus
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 979
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:44 pm

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby annis » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:24 am

Somnium Scipionis was my second major encounter with Cicero. Is this still widely read?
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
τίς πατέρ' αἰνήσει εἰ μὴ κακοδαίμονες υἱοί;
annis
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 3397
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:55 pm
Location: Madison, WI, USA

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby thesaurus » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:36 am

Of the few texts that we read for my undergrad Cicero seminar, Somnium Scipionis was one of them. So, I'd say yes. Plus, it's inherently interesting if at times confusing in terms of cosmology.
Horae quidem cedunt et dies et menses et anni, nec praeteritum tempus umquam revertitur nec quid sequatur sciri potest. Quod cuique temporis ad vivendum datur, eo debet esse contentus. --Cicero, De Senectute
thesaurus
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 979
Joined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:44 pm

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby Kasper » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:01 pm

Will, the idea was raised in the upcoming Ovid study group that we could add the text of Metamorphoses to your site, for the study group to make comments/annotations. What do you think of this idea?
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
Kasper
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 799
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Melbourne

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby annis » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm

Kasper wrote:What do you think of this idea?


I approve!

Is there a suitable online version that is unencumbered by copyright and is reasonably reliable we can grab as the base text?
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
τίς πατέρ' αἰνήσει εἰ μὴ κακοδαίμονες υἱοί;
annis
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 3397
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:55 pm
Location: Madison, WI, USA

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby IreneY » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:05 pm

No philosophers?
Anyway, from orators, I guess Demosthenes Philippics wouldn't be a bad choice.
From Lysias one of his best is "Against Eratoshenes"
For Panegyrics I'd go for Isocrates' "Panathenaicus" I guess.

There are many (obviously) but these are some of my favourites :)
User avatar
IreneY
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 800
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:27 am
Location: U.S.A (not American though)

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby Bert » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:26 am

In spite of your site being named "Aoidoi" you don't seem to be adverse to include narrative because you suggested "Xenophon's bloody Anabasis" yourself. Would you venture into Koine? If so, how about Epictetus?
Bert
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 1890
Joined: Sat May 31, 2003 2:28 am
Location: Arthur Ontario Canada

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby annis » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:48 am

IreneY wrote:No philosophers?


There's a little Plato already there, and some more of the major dialogs should be uploaded. Unfortunately, the historians and the philosophers both tend to be wordy. I would eventually like some Aristotle.

Anyway, from orators, I guess Demosthenes Philippics wouldn't be a bad choice.
From Lysias one of his best is "Against Eratoshenes"
For Panegyrics I'd go for Isocrates' "Panathenaicus" I guess.


I will keep these in mind.
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
τίς πατέρ' αἰνήσει εἰ μὴ κακοδαίμονες υἱοί;
annis
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 3397
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:55 pm
Location: Madison, WI, USA

Re: Required Texts for Scholiastae

Postby annis » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:49 am

Bert wrote:In spite of your site being named "Aoidoi" you don't seem to be adverse to include narrative because you suggested "Xenophon's bloody Anabasis" yourself. Would you venture into Koine? If so, how about Epictetus?


Well, the point of Scholiastae is to be more than Aoidoi. Koine authors of all sorts would be welcome — I'm a fan of Epictetus myself.
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
τίς πατέρ' αἰνήσει εἰ μὴ κακοδαίμονες υἱοί;
annis
Textkit Zealot
 
Posts: 3397
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2003 4:55 pm
Location: Madison, WI, USA


Return to Open Board

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Yahoo [Bot] and 18 guests