Superavi wrote:Lesbia, at one time you were speaking to have known Catullus alone
But not to be willing to hold Jupiter in front of me
At that time I didn't like you so much as an acquaintance
but your father __ likes appropriate son-in-laws
Now that I have known you: even if, how strong I burn
You are, however, cheaper and easier to me
What can it do? You say. Because such injury brings together
to love, but to not wish well at all
Dicebas quondam solum te nosse Catullum
Lesbia, nec prae me velle tenere Iovem.
dilexi tum te non tantum ut vulgus amicam,
sed pater ut gnatos diligit et generos.
nunc te cognovi: quare etsi impensius uror,
multo mi tamen es vilior et levior.
qui potis est? inquis. quod amantem iniuria talis
cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus.
Good start. Maybe this can help.
Instead of speaking, "used to say" sounds better. The infinitive nosse in line 1 is indirect speech with Dicebas (imperfect). Prae me=before/instead of me. Velle-prefer/wish
tenere=to hold with velle. Velle is infinitive with indirect speech\. Dicebas again.
Dilexi- perf. I loved you. Tum-then.
non tantum ut vulgus amicam-not as the vulgar love a friend
sed pater ut gnatos diligit et generos-but as a father loves son and son-in-law
quare etsi impensius uror-therefore, Although I burn more fiercely
multo mi tamen es vilior et levior- to me, you are much cheaper and lighter
qui potis est? How is this possible? inquis-you ask
quod amantem iniuria talis cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus. Change order to Quod inuria talis cogit amantem amare magis .....-such injuries cause the lover to love more, but to wish well less.
You used to say that you knew Catullus alone,
Lesbia, nor did you wish to hold Jove himself.
I loved you then not as the vulgar love their friends
But as a father loves his sons and sons-in-laws.
Now I know you: and although I burn more intensely,
To me you are much cheaper and lighter.
How is this? you ask. Because such injuries cause the lover to love more, but to wish good things less.
My comment....Catullus considered his love for Lesbia a holy/special love. He did not want to rub against her like the vulgar playboy. He wanted to set her apart like a father does his own sons. Their love meant more than simply the physical...to Catullus.
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him. ~Swift