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Dative of the person ordered

Postby Interaxus » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:10 pm

While paper-surfing old books, I hit something that led me to the D’Ooge Key:

§368 page 159
1. a) Quis Caesarem iter facere iussit? – b) Quis imperavit ut Caesar iter faceret?

The translation task in the original book is:

”Who ordered Caesar to make the march? (Write this sentence both with impero and with iubeo.)”

In the main text of the chapter, an EXAMPLE of impero is given: ”The general ordered the soldiers to run – Imperator militibus imperavit ut currerent.” Also, ”Iubeo eum venire” is compared with ”Impero ei ut veniat”, and Mr D’ points out that ’dative of the person ordered’ is used with ’impero’.

So shouldn’t answer 1. b) be ”Quis Caesari imperavit ut iter faceret?”

Now, the current b) answer does not in itself seem wrong to me, but I wonder if it is stylistically as acceptable as the version wth the dative that Mr D’ was seemingly touting?

Can some kind expert pronounce on this one, please?

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Re: Dative of the person ordered

Postby benissimus » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:28 am

Both are correct, but the one in the key is a little looser.
flebile nescio quid queritur lyra, flebile lingua murmurat exanimis, respondent flebile ripae
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Re: Dative of the person ordered

Postby Kasper » Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:51 am

The english even seems ambiguous, who is doing the ordering?

"Cui Caesar imperavit ut iter faceret?"
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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