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Latin to English Help please

Postby Pommy » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:50 pm

Hi we have a paragraph that is for homework tonight and there are a few parts that I am having trouble on...

I translated the beginning of it with no problem but now I am running into some trouble.
Would be very much appreciated if people could just point out anything that is wrong..




Ibi Latinus rex eum benigne recepit atque ei filiam Laviniam in matrimonium dedit

In that place, Latinius the king kindly accepted him, but he gave his son Latinius in marriage.

Aeneas urbem condidit, quam in coniugis honorem Lavinium appellavit

Aenease founded the city, which he named in honor of Latinius.. Don't know what to do with the "in coniugis"

Thanks for your help in advanced =)
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby Kasper » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:03 pm

HI Pommy,
not a bad attempt at all. I'll give you some hints to iron out your minor errors:

Ibi Latinus rex eum benigne recepit atque ei filiam Laviniam in matrimonium dedit

In that place, Latinius the king kindly accepted him, but he gave his son Latinius in marriage.



Latinus is not the name 'Latinius'. Compare 'Latinus' to, e.g., 'Romanus' or 'Gallus' or 'Graecus'.
The gender of filiam is female, not male.
You have left out 'ei'.
'Laviniam' does not translate to 'Latinius'.


Aeneas urbem condidit, quam in coniugis honorem Lavinium appellavit

Aenease founded the city, which he named in honor of Latinius.. Don't know what to do with the "in coniugis"


You have to read 'in coniugis honorem' as a whole. Coniugis is the genitive of 'coniunx'.
i presume 'Latinius' is a typo for 'Lavinius'

well done, and good luck
K
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby thesaurus » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:43 pm

Pommy wrote:Ibi Latinus rex eum benigne recepit atque ei filiam Laviniam in matrimonium dedit

In that place, Latinius the king kindly accepted him, but he gave his son Latinius in marriage.


In addition to Kasper's comments, think about the connection between these two sentences in relation to "atque." It means "and," not "but." This should help clarify the other difficulties in the second half of the sentence.
Horae quidem cedunt et dies et menses et anni, nec praeteritum tempus umquam revertitur nec quid sequatur sciri potest. Quod cuique temporis ad vivendum datur, eo debet esse contentus. --Cicero, De Senectute
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby Pommy » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:10 am

Thanks for the help so far.. I got a couple more sentences I need some guidance with =D.

1) Ibi haud procul a ianiculo arcem condidit, eamque Saturniam appellavit.

In that place, not far off from the Janiculum he built a fortress, Saturnus called upon.. Don't know how to use the eamque

2) Hic primus Italos agril culturam docuit

He first taught the Italians the cultivation of the field

3) Hinc Aeneas, Anchisae filius et Veneris deae, cum multis Troianis, qui ex eo bello superfuerunt, aufugit, et in italiam pervenit.

From this place Aeneas, the son of Arichius and the son of the goddess Venu, with many Tronjans, who had survived from that war, fled, and arrived in Italy.

Sorry if I went a little overboard on this just want to make sure I'm doing everything right... Thanks again for all the help!
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby spiphany » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:56 am

Pommy wrote:1) Ibi haud procul a ianiculo arcem condidit, eamque Saturniam appellavit.

In that place, not far off from the Janiculum he built a fortress, Saturnus called upon.. Don't know how to use the eamque

Check your endings: what case (and gender) is Saturniam?
IPHIGENIE: Kann uns zum Vaterland die Fremde werden?
ARKAS: Und dir ist fremd das Vaterland geworden.
IPHIGENIE: Das ist's, warum mein blutend Herz nicht heilt.
(Goethe, Iphigenie auf Tauris)
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby Pommy » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:15 pm

Accusative feminine I think?
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby thesaurus » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:17 pm

Pommy wrote:Accusative feminine I think?

Correct, and it should help to know that "eamque" is a combination of two items, "eam" (is, ea, id) and "que,"
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Re: Latin to English Help please

Postby wackyvorlon » Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:53 am

Also remember, feminine nouns in the singular usually end in -a, masculine -us. So if you have Laviniam in a sentence, the nominative form is Lavinia, not Lavinius.
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