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Check exercsies

Postby Boban » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:16 pm

A. Translations:
1) timor nostri
our fear

2) multi vestrum
many of you

3) amor vestri
yours love


B. Coniugations:
1) ignosco mihi errorem
1.s. ignosco mihi errorem
2.s. ignoscis tibi errorem
3.s. ignoscit sibi errorem

1.p. ignoscimus nobis errorem
2.p. ignoscitis vobis errorem
3.p. ignoscunt sibi errorem


2) lavo me
1.s. lavo me
2.s. lavas te
3.s. lavat se

1.p. lavamus nos
2.p. lavatis vos
3.p. lavant se

3) a me invenitur
1.s. (ego) a me invenior
2.s. (tu) a me invenieris
3.s. (is,ea,id) a me invenitur

1.p. (nos) a me invenimur
2.p. (vos) a me invenimini
3.p. (ii, eae, ea) a me inveniuntur

C. Transform following sentences from active to passive:
1) Lego Phaedri fabellam de lupo et agno.
Phaedri fabella de lupo et agno a me legitur.

2) Carmina poetarum non tantum legimus set etiam ediscimus.
Carmina poetarum a nobis non tantum legimur set setiam ediscimur.

3) Memoriam nostri servatis.
Memoria nostri a vobis servamini.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby thesaurus » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:15 pm

Boban wrote:2) Carmina poetarum non tantum legimus set etiam ediscimus.
Carmina poetarum a nobis non tantum legimur set setiam ediscimur.

3) Memoriam nostri servatis.
Memoria nostri a vobis servamini.


Everything looks good to me but these two. Remember that when you change a sentence to the passive, you need to change the 'person' of the verb to fit the new subject (which was previously the object in an active sentence). This involves changing not just the voice of the verb (laudant->laudantur), but also the person and number (laudo->laudatur).

So "Carmina poetarum non tantum legimus sed etiam ediscimus" in the passive becomes "Carmina poetarum a nobis non tantum leguntur sed etiam ediscuntur." In the active sentence "nos" is the subject, but in the passive the 'carmina' become the subject, so the verb must take the third person plural.

Similarly, "Memoriam nostri servatis" should become "Memoria nostri a vobis servatur." The memory is the new subject, so the verb is third person singular.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby modus.irrealis » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:24 pm

Boban wrote:1) timor nostri
our fear

I believe that this is "fear of us" and that "our fear" would be timor noster, i.e.

timemus -> timor noster
nos timent -> timor nostri

3) amor vestri
yours love

Same as above, "love of you" -- "your love" would be amor vester.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby bedwere » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:48 pm

Boban wrote:3) a me invenitur
1.s. (ego) a me invenior
2.s. (tu) a me invenieris
3.s. (is,ea,id) a me invenitur

1.p. (nos) a me invenimur
2.p. (vos) a me invenimini
3.p. (ii, eae, ea) a me inveniuntur

[


I think this is an exercise on the pronouns, rather. Othewise why bother with the "a me"?

a me invenitur
a te invenitur

etc.

Right?
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby Boban » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:00 pm

bedwere wrote:
Boban wrote:3) a me invenitur
1.s. (ego) a me invenior
2.s. (tu) a me invenieris
3.s. (is,ea,id) a me invenitur

1.p. (nos) a me invenimur
2.p. (vos) a me invenimini
3.p. (ii, eae, ea) a me inveniuntur

[


I think this is an exercise on the pronouns, rather. Othewise why bother with the "a me"?

a me invenitur
a te invenitur

etc.

Right?


No, it's verb exercise.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby Boban » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:02 pm

thesaurus wrote:
Boban wrote:2) Carmina poetarum non tantum legimus set etiam ediscimus.
Carmina poetarum a nobis non tantum legimur set setiam ediscimur.

3) Memoriam nostri servatis.
Memoria nostri a vobis servamini.


Everything looks good to me but these two. Remember that when you change a sentence to the passive, you need to change the 'person' of the verb to fit the new subject (which was previously the object in an active sentence). This involves changing not just the voice of the verb (laudant->laudantur), but also the person and number (laudo->laudatur).

So "Carmina poetarum non tantum legimus sed etiam ediscimus" in the passive becomes "Carmina poetarum a nobis non tantum leguntur sed etiam ediscuntur." In the active sentence "nos" is the subject, but in the passive the 'carmina' become the subject, so the verb must take the third person plural.

Similarly, "Memoriam nostri servatis" should become "Memoria nostri a vobis servatur." The memory is the new subject, so the verb is third person singular.


Ah, it was in a hurry written, I just wasn't concentrated.
You will see that in first sentence I put right verb form, but in second and third I was just lost concentration in hurry.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby Boban » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:05 pm

modus.irrealis wrote:
Boban wrote:1) timor nostri
our fear

I believe that this is "fear of us" and that "our fear" would be timor noster, i.e.

timemus -> timor noster
nos timent -> timor nostri

3) amor vestri
yours love

Same as above, "love of you" -- "your love" would be amor vester.


I wasn't sure really, because I have just learned personal pronouns so I don't know.
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Re: Check exercsies

Postby modus.irrealis » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:37 pm

Boban wrote:I wasn't sure really, because I have just learned personal pronouns so I don't know.

Just so I can confirm my "I believe", here's a grammar that mentions the amor vestri vs. amor vester.
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