http://ewonago.blogspot.com/2008/07/vow.html wrote:The word vow (oath, assure) comes from the Latin voveo (I vow), which derives from the Greek verb βεβαιώ (to assure, to promise with certainty; veveo).
annis wrote:I love how you tailor you posts here to make it seem like you're being reasonable. Yet in your blog posts, which at first I thought were duplicates, you persist in the false notion that Latin is derived from Greek (emphasis mine):http://ewonago.blogspot.com/2008/07/vow.html wrote:The word vow (oath, assure) comes from the Latin voveo (I vow), which derives from the Greek verb βεβαιώ (to assure, to promise with certainty; veveo).
You already have a blog for these. Don't waste our time and forum space with these if you're just going to copy sanitized versions of your blog. Those of us who want to drink of your etymological fantasies know the URL now.
Essorant wrote:Does he believe that Latin is derived from Greek?
IreneY wrote:Or, in other words, most of the rest of the world -or at least the western world- probably communicated with grunts and gestures before coming in contact with the Greeks or their students, the Romans.
calvinist wrote:IreneY wrote:Or, in other words, most of the rest of the world -or at least the western world- probably communicated with grunts and gestures before coming in contact with the Greeks or their students, the Romans.
Duh! That's why they were called barbarians!
I don't think he believes that every Latin word (or every English word) comes from Greek but he does seem to believe that every Latin (or English) word that is a cognate to a Greek word derived from that Greek word.Lex wrote:Seriously, though, does this guy believe that all Indo-European derives from Greek, or just Latin and derived languages?
I'd love to hear how "dog" is derived from κυων.
Bert wrote:I don't think he believes that every Latin word (or every English word) comes from Greek but he does seem to believe that every Latin (or English) word that is a cognate to a Greek word derived from that Greek word.Lex wrote:Seriously, though, does this guy believe that all Indo-European derives from Greek, or just Latin and derived languages?
I'd love to hear how "dog" is derived from κυων.
Lex wrote:But, hey, this etymology stuff is fun and easy. All you need is a language reference of any sort, and a lot of imagination. No scientific arguments required.
Lex wrote:For that matter, how the heck did something like the shift from something like equus to ἰππος happen? Or was it the other way around?
swiftnicholas wrote:Lex wrote:But, hey, this etymology stuff is fun and easy. All you need is a language reference of any sort, and a lot of imagination. No scientific arguments required.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but historical linguistics is not an arbitrary practice.
swiftnicholas wrote:Lex wrote:For that matter, how the heck did something like the shift from something like equus to ἰππος happen? Or was it the other way around?
It's not a question of going from one to the other; they are both reflexes of an earlier word. They are also cognate with Sanskrit áśva, to make things more amazing.
Lex wrote:I've also read that there is a P/Q split in Celtic.
Lex wrote:This occurred to me; supposedly Q-Celtic (Celtic on the Q side of the P/Q split), aka Celtiberian, was the original Celtic, and P-Celtic is the offshoot. Also, Latin (a Q language) is supposedly more closely related to Celtic than to Greek. That would imply that the P/Q split between Proto-Greek and other languages in that tree happened first, then another P/Q split happened independently in Celtic. Is this right?
I don't pretend to understand all of this. (This is the first time I have heard of something called a P/Q split,) but this comment puzzled me enough to ask about it. Three different velar sounds: Plain would probably be the real velar, like the ng in young, I am thinking that palatal would be the y in young but what is a labial velar sound? I don't know how I would go about making a velar sound that involves my lips. What am I misunderstanding?annis wrote:...... The three different velar sounds (plain, palatal, labial) fell out in different ways in different languages. .......
Bert wrote:Three different velar sounds: Plain would probably be the real velar, like the ng in young, I am thinking that palatal would be the y in young but what is a labial velar sound? I don't know how I would go about making a velar sound that involves my lips. What am I misunderstanding?
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