Gonzalo wrote:Thanks for sharing this. I want to learn both Biblical and Modern Hebrew in a similar way I do with Greek. I am only studying Attic because I cannot manage Modern Greek + Attic at the same time. I use two different pronunciations, there are (in my humble opinion) many differences and it's excessive even only one. As for Hebrew, I wanted only to know what's more recommendable to a beginner: Beginning with Modern Hebrew or Classical Hebrew.
vir litterarum wrote:I have heard that the vocabulary of Classical Hebrew is quite small in relation to Classical Greek. Is this true?
modus.irrealis wrote:vir litterarum wrote:I have heard that the vocabulary of Classical Hebrew is quite small in relation to Classical Greek. Is this true?
I've heard the same with the reason given being that the corpus for Classical Hebrew is extremely small compared to one for Greek (I've heard analogous statements for Classical Latin as well). From what I've read there's a lot of evidence that the actual vocabulary was larger (maybe much larger) than that found in the Biblical writings (new words found in inscriptions, in later forms of Hebrew, and so on), so I think it's a matter of how much vocabulary happened to be written down.
modus.irrealis wrote:vir litterarum wrote:I have heard that the vocabulary of Classical Hebrew is quite small in relation to Classical Greek. Is this true?
I've heard the same with the reason given being that the corpus for Classical Hebrew is extremely small compared to one for Greek (I've heard analogous statements for Classical Latin as well). From what I've read there's a lot of evidence that the actual vocabulary was larger (maybe much larger) than that found in the Biblical writings (new words found in inscriptions, in later forms of Hebrew, and so on), so I think it's a matter of how much vocabulary happened to be written down.
metrodorus wrote:There are almost no philosophical ideas as such
expressed in the Hebrew Bible, and those that there are - for example, in Ecclesiastes - are heavily influenced by Greek models.
Evan.
calvinist wrote:metrodorus wrote:There are almost no philosophical ideas as such
expressed in the Hebrew Bible, and those that there are - for example, in Ecclesiastes - are heavily influenced by Greek models.
Evan.
I'm not sure how much Ecclesiastes could have been influenced by Greek models, since it was written by King Solomon who was born about 1000 BC.
quendidil wrote:calvinist wrote:metrodorus wrote:There are almost no philosophical ideas as such
expressed in the Hebrew Bible, and those that there are - for example, in Ecclesiastes - are heavily influenced by Greek models.
Evan.
I'm not sure how much Ecclesiastes could have been influenced by Greek models, since it was written by King Solomon who was born about 1000 BC.
Wikipedia actually suggests that it was more influenced by Persian models.
I wouldn't be too worried about that, from what I hear Job is a notoriously difficult text to translate for Biblical scholars as well.bluetech wrote:On the other hand, books like Job (from chapter 3) are mostly incomprehensible to me as a Modern Hebrew speaker without some help.
Gonzalo wrote:Hi,
[Thanks for your thoughts and welcome to bluetech.]
I found William R. Harper's Elements of Hebrew in a book-shop and I bought it. So, I am going to study Biblical Hebrew. I think that this incoming week I wll be able finally to master the aleph-bet and then I'll move to Harper's book and some books I've bookmarked from Google Books.
I'd like to know a short list of Biblical vocabulary with phonetic transcription and English translation and Hebrew characters. No more than 30-50 words. It would be very useful to begin.
Regards and many thanks again for the commentaries,
Gonzalo
P.S.: I've found two interesting links. This one deals with vocabulary and this one with History of Hebrew language.
Faylasoof wrote:Gonzalo wrote:Hi,
[Thanks for your thoughts and welcome to bluetech.]
I found William R. Harper's Elements of Hebrew in a book-shop and I bought it. So, I am going to study Biblical Hebrew. I think that this incoming week I wll be able finally to master the aleph-bet and then I'll move to Harper's book and some books I've bookmarked from Google Books.
I'd like to know a short list of Biblical vocabulary with phonetic transcription and English translation and Hebrew characters. No more than 30-50 words. It would be very useful to begin.
Regards and many thanks again for the commentaries,
Gonzalo
P.S.: I've found two interesting links. This one deals with vocabulary and this one with History of Hebrew language.
BTW, this book is also available at the Internet Archive:
http://www.archive.org/details/williamrharperse00harprich
[William R. Harper's elements of Hebrew by an inductive method ([c1921])]
I note that you have at present the aim to learn the basic vocabulary of ~50 words. If however you wish to build on this later, then Harper can again help you. He compiled a comprehensive list of Hebrew words by their frequency of occurrence. Very useful:
http://www.archive.org/details/hebrewvocabulari00harpiala
[Hebrew vocabularies: lists of the most frequently occurring Hebrew words (1898, c1890)]
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