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Postby gnomonstyle » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:34 pm

Does anyone know where I might be able to find a Latin prose translation of the Iliad and/or Odyssey? I'm looking for a full translation, not the summary versions.
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Postby Lucus Eques » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:40 pm

I don't know myself, but am curious if there be such a thing.

I sure wish Livius Andronicus' translation had survived...
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Postby annis » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:51 pm

Voilà — Homeri Carmina et cycli epici reliquiae: Graece et Latine. The print is kind of small though, often a problem for the googly versions of these giant Didot editions.
William S. Annis — http://www.aoidoi.org/http://www.scholiastae.org/
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Postby mingshey » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:02 am

Oh boy, what a great find, William!
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Postby Lucus Eques » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:40 am

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Postby gnomonstyle » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:46 pm

Excellent...Thanks!
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Postby Essorant » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:37 am

Thanks very much for sharing that. It seems a shame that a Latin translation of Homer be so hidden away.
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Postby cantator » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:10 pm

Essorant wrote:Thanks very much for sharing that. It seems a shame that a Latin translation of Homer be so hidden away.


It isn't, and this question has been raised and answered here before now. It's too bad that Textkit doesn't have a forum search function that would have found the thread. (I'd be happy to be corrected if such a function exists).

Samuel Clarke's ad verbum translation is easily available via Google Books. Type in Ilias Homeri Latine (or just search for Samuel Clarke) and you'll find it. There's more than one PDF available, so check out the different editions for the best typeface.

Clarke also translated the Odyssey. Many other classics in Graece et Latine are available from Google Books.

Lucus: Of course we'll probably never see Andronicus's work, but Andreas Divus's translation is still in the world. A pity that no-one has put it up on Google Books, it was an influential text for Ezra Pound.
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Postby Lucus Eques » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:22 pm

Cantator, tell me more about this Andreas Divus translation.

Also, as for search options on past thread topics, what do you thing of my proposal:
http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-foru ... php?t=8327
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Postby cantator » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:44 pm

Lucus Eques wrote:Cantator, tell me more about this Andreas Divus translation.


Pound related that he found a copy of Divus's translation of the Odyssey at a bookstall in Paris in the early part of the 20th century. IIRC that translation dates from the 1500s, but I'm not positive about that date.

Pound's first Canto is a fair translation of Divus's translation, done in a style reminiscent of the Anglo-Saxon poem, The Seafarer

Also, as for search options on past thread topics, what do you thing of my proposal:
http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-foru ... php?t=8327


Yes, I like the Catalog idea. Not much response to it though. :(

A forum search function would still be a Very Good Thing, IMO.
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Postby Lucus Eques » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:57 pm

You don't mean the Search option at the top of every page of this forum, do you? Right between FAQ and Memberlist?

As for the catalog idea, I might start a few examples, and if the trend catches on then that'll be great.
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Postby cantator » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:52 pm

Lucus Eques wrote:You don't mean the Search option at the top of every page of this forum, do you? Right between FAQ and Memberlist?


Good grief. Senex sum et caecus.

Et valde erubescens nunc.

As for the catalog idea, I might start a few examples, and if the trend catches on then that'll be great.


The available Search mechanism seems pretty good, now that I've looked at it, but the Catalog would be a good addition.
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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby Dante » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:41 pm

you can download a PDF facsimile of Andreas Divas' 1537 Latin Iliad here:

http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/en/fs1/object/display/bsb10169377_00005.html

click on "PDF download"

is the internet awesome or what?
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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby Dante » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:43 pm

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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby Carolus Raeticus » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:04 pm

Salvete,

I am currently transcribing the Didot-editions (not to everybody's liking, but I enjoy reading it) of Homer's "Iliad" (finished transcribing, currently proofreading) and the "Odyssey" (currently transcribing).

Valete,

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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby MarkAntony198337 » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:59 pm

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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby mwh » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:55 pm

The most interesting might be Cicero’s Aratea, a translation of Aratus; both in hexameters. There’s another translation of Aratus’ poem made a few decades later by a certain Germanicus Caesar. Cicero also translated other verse in his philosophical works, e.g. a passage of Sophocles’ Trachiniae.
CAtullus 51 is a translation of a wellknown poem of Sappho's, in the same lyric meter, and Cat.61 translates a partially preserved poem by Callimachus, in elegiacs.
Phaedrus (1st cent.) translated Aesop fables into Latin iambics, and there are prose versions. And there’s a Latin translation of a version of the so-called Life of Aesop, an interesting text.

Before Jerome, word-for-word translations were generally (and rightly) looked down on as being false to the spirit and sense of the original.
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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby MarkAntony198337 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:23 pm

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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby cantator » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:39 pm

MarkAntony198337 wrote:If only we had a full rendition into Latin of one of Aeschylus or Sophocles's plays, or one of Plato's dialogues...


Kindle editions :

http://www.amazon.com/Persians-Promethe ... ylus+latin

http://www.amazon.com/Oedipus-Rex-Colon ... 1J8DQV8NW9

http://www.amazon.com/Lysistrata-Thesmo ... 2D3Z1GY9MG

And so on ...
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Re: latin translation of homer?

Postby MarkAntony198337 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:16 pm

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