Help translating

[kev1888bhoy]

Hey can someone please help me translate this saying

"What does not break me will only make me stronger"

and also

If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live

Thanks for any help.

PS. Its for a tattoo so need it to be as close as possible thanks again

[Lucus Eques]

We only provide help, once you have attempted to translate it yourself.

[Kasper]

Well, that rule applies to homework questions does it not Luce? This does not seem homework related to me.

of course the wisdom of asking a bunch of strangers to provide teh text for a tattoo in a language you don't understand is somewhat questionable...

in any event, i believe there is a relatively recent thread that deals with possible translations of the second sentence.

[kev1888bhoy]

We only provide help, once you have attempted to translate it yourself.

No problem this is my attempt at it

quidnam possum non effrego mihi volo solus mihi validus

Which is what does not break me will only make me stronger

[Kasper]

quidnam possum non effrego mihi volo solus mihi validus

the wisdom of asking strangers is now apparent to me.

i would say:
quid me non frangit,
fortiorem me facit.

but better wait for someone with better latin to advise you on this.

[kev1888bhoy]

Haha that was me using a latin translator
Thanks for your suggestion

[Rufus Gulielmus]

I like Kasper's translation... alliterative Fs and a little rhyme thrown in. Stylishly done.

Rufus

[bedwere]

How about using the future perfect+future instead (fregerit and faciet)?

[benissimus]

i would say:
quid me non frangit,
fortiorem me facit.

I would call this is a sound translation, Kasper, but use quod instead of quid:
quod me non frangit
fortiorem me facit

My own rendition uses fewer words, which I think is probably desirable in a tattoo:
nisi frangor fortior fio

I've changed the sentence structure a bit, but I feel it fits Latin idiom more than if it were translated literally.

[Lucus Eques]

Ben's on the same thinking I am:

Quo non frangor
fortior fio.

[kev1888bhoy]

i would say:
quid me non frangit,
fortiorem me facit.

I would call this is a sound translation, Kasper, but use quod instead of quid:
quod me non frangit
fortiorem me facit

My own rendition uses fewer words, which I think is probably desirable in a tattoo:
nisi frangor fortior fio

I've changed the sentence structure a bit, but I feel it fits Latin idiom more than if it were translated literally.

what is

nisi frangor fortior fio translated into English please

Also thanks Kasper

[adrianus]

I translated "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" elsewhere as
'Quod non ruit, munit'
(Literally = "What doesn't destroy, fortifies").
Aliter hoc dedi ut "Quod non ruit, munit".

"Nisi frangor, fortior fio" = (Literally) "Unless I break, I am becoming stronger", Kev1888bhoy

Best to avoid any such tattoo!! Amabò te, Kev1888bhoy, fuge talem notam in cute.

[Kasper]

i would say:
quid me non frangit,
fortiorem me facit.

I would call this is a sound translation, Kasper, but use quod instead of quid:
quod me non frangit
fortiorem me facit

My own rendition uses fewer words, which I think is probably desirable in a tattoo:
nisi frangor fortior fio

I've changed the sentence structure a bit, but I feel it fits Latin idiom more than if it were translated literally.

Yes of course, quod is much better. Gratias tibi, Benessime.

I think your translation moves too far away from the original sentence however, and i would prefer Lucus' translation...