substantive usage of the participle in Herodotos

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substantive usage of the participle in Herodotos

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τὰ μέν νυν ἓξ ἔτεα τῶν ἕνδεκα Σαδυάττης ? Ἄ?δυος ἔτι Λυδῶν ἦ?χε, ? καὶ ?σβάλλων τηνικαῦτα ?ς τὴν Μιλησίην τὴν στ?ατιήν: Σαδυάττης οὗτος γὰ? καὶ ? τὸν πόλεμον ἦν συνάψας:
1.18.2

Can a participle used substantively be separated from its article by ἦν? Or is the participle συνάψας not being used substantively here?

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No, it isn't substantive. It is modifying Saduattes. "This Saduattes was the one who took up..."

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But translating it as "the one who took up" is still translating the participle as a substantive in predicate relation to Saduattes.

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Post by vir litterarum »

Thanks for the reference. I haven't found any references in Smyth to this issue, and, as you stated, I think it is relatively rare.

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But it isn't a substantive if it is modifying another noun. Then it is a predicate adjective.

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It's not modifying another noun. It's functioning as a predicate noun, not as a predicate adjective, i.e. "...for this Saduattes is the one also having commenced the war."

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