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by vir litterarum » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:30 pm
τὰ μέν νυν ἓξ ἔτεα τῶν ἕνδεκα Σαδυάττης ? Ἄ?δυος ἔτι Λυδῶν ἦ?χε, ? καὶ ?σβάλλων τηνικαῦτα ?ς τὴν Μιλησίην τὴν στ?ατιήν: Σαδυάττης οὗτος γὰ? καὶ ? τὸν πόλεμον ἦν συνάψας:
1.18.2
Can a participle used substantively be separated from its article by ἦν? Or is the participle συνάψας not being used substantively here?
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by Rindu » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:05 pm
No, it isn't substantive. It is modifying Saduattes. "This Saduattes was the one who took up..."
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by vir litterarum » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:41 pm
But translating it as "the one who took up" is still translating the participle as a substantive in predicate relation to Saduattes.
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by Didymus » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:33 pm
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by vir litterarum » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:52 pm
Thanks for the reference. I haven't found any references in Smyth to this issue, and, as you stated, I think it is relatively rare.
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by Rindu » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:02 pm
But it isn't a substantive if it is modifying another noun. Then it is a predicate adjective.
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by vir litterarum » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:05 pm
It's not modifying another noun. It's functioning as a predicate noun, not as a predicate adjective, i.e. "...for this Saduattes is the one also having commenced the war."