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Pharr 150 line 5

Postby Bert » Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:24 pm

[face=SPIonic]qea\ leukw/lenoj (/Hrh e)pi\ fresi\n e)/qhke th\n boulh\n )Axilh=i[/face] <br />I translate this line something like; The white-armed goddess Hera put this plan in Achilles' heart.<br /><br />(Is 'white-armed' a complimentary sort of adjective?)<br /><br />My question is, why is [face=SPIonic]fresi\n[/face] Plural? <br /><br />Thanks.<br />Bert.
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Re:Pharr 150 line 5

Postby annis » Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:27 am

[quote author=Bert de Haan link=board=2;threadid=664;start=0#6258 date=1063927495]<br />[face=SPIonic]qea\ leukw/lenoj (/Hrh e)pi\ fresi\n e)/qhke th\n boulh\n )Axilh=i[/face] <br />I translate this line something like; The white-armed goddess Hera put this plan in Achilles' heart.<br /><br />(Is 'white-armed' a complimentary sort of adjective?)<br />[/quote]<br /><br />Of course. It means Hera is an upper-class goddess who stays in the home running things and isn't outside laboring under the sun like all those nasty commoners.<br /><br />
<br />My question is, why is [face=SPIonic]fresi\n[/face] Plural? <br />
<br /><br />The diaphram was thought of as a double organ, like lungs. In fact, according to Cunliffe the word occurs more often in the plural.<br />
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Re:Pharr 150 line 5

Postby Bert » Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:46 am

[quote author=William Annis link=board=2;threadid=664;start=0#6264 date=1063934833]<br /> <br />(Is 'white-armed' a complimentary sort of adjective?)<br />
<br /><br />Of course. It means Hera is an upper-class goddess who stays in the home running things and isn't outside laboring under the sun like all those nasty commoners.<br /><br /> <br />Now-a-days people go through great pain to get a sun tan while 200 years ago it was a sign of wealth to not have a sun tan. I was considering if this is what was meant here too, but I thought; nah, couldn't be, it'll have to be something more...more... profound, especialy considering she is a goddess and not human. <br /><br /><br />
<br />My question is, why is [face=SPIonic]fresi\n[/face] Plural? <br />
<br /><br />The diaphram was thought of as a double organ, like lungs. In fact, according to Cunliffe the word occurs more often in the plural.<br /><br />[/quote]<br />Thank you.
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Re:Pharr 150 line 5

Postby annis » Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:57 am

[quote author=Bert de Haan link=board=2;threadid=664;start=0#6265 date=1063935974]<br />Now-a-days people go through great pain to get a sun tan while 200 years ago it was a sign of wealth to not have a sun tan. I was considering if this is what was meant here too, but I thought; nah, couldn't be, it'll have to be something more...more... profound, especialy considering she is a goddess and not human. <br />[/quote]<br /><br />Well, this is the sense in which I've always taken it. Paleness has been considered attractive in aristocratic women in enough cultures that I take this reasoning to be equally common. I could be misinterpreting this.<br /><br />But [face=SPIonic]leuko/j[/face] also means "bright, shining" not just "white", so if we are in trouble on the tan-free front, we can take the shiney route. In any case, several godesses and women get this epithet, and I see no reference to it being other than complimentary.<br />
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