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XXII and XXIII the mystery of the missing tense

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XXII and XXIII the mystery of the missing tense

Postby Tertius Robertus » Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:50 pm

more questions :roll:
  1. he asks us to study the future perfect indicative, but this is nowhere to be found, also, how is it formed? :?
  2. in the formation of the aorist subjunctive, the endings are attached to which stem? the aorist w/o the augment? for instance how would it be in a case like aeidw? which renders eadov: adw adnis etc?
  3. what is with those mi tha and ci beside the conjugations?
  4. and wtf is the conjugation of the perfect subjunctive? lelumenos ew? what the hell is that? participle + eimi?
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Re: XXII and XXIII the mystery of the missing tense

Postby modus.irrealis » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:57 pm

Hey, questions are good :D.

1. There is a paradigm of the future perfect indicative of λÏ￾ω. The future perfect middle is basically formed by adding -σομαι to the stem of the perfect middle. Reading Monro's grammar, he doesn't mention the active, so I guess it doesn't occur in Homer (and it's very rare in Attic Greek). Conjugation is like the normal future.

2. Yes, without the augment. The augment only occurs in the indicative. For ἀείδω, the aorist is ἤεισα so the unaugmented stem is ἀεισ- and the subjunctive is ἀείσω, ἀείσῃς, ἀείσῃ, etc. for ἕαδον the subjunctive would be ἅδω, ἅδῃς, ἅδῃ, etc. as you say.

3. Sometimes the subjunctive has extended endings, e.g. both λÏ￾ω and λÏ￾ωμι are possible, and so on.

4. You're right. Lots of the perfect forms are formed with participle plus the corresponding form of εἰμί.
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Postby Tertius Robertus » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:35 pm

thanks, mode :D
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