<br /><br />I'm not irritated or angry at all! I'm internationally known for my kindness! LOL! No, in fact I wrote a part of the reply, then did something else, and finally continued the next part. And I had difficulties to find the right English verbs, next time I will anser in Latin, I think, that's easier. <br /><br />I was not talking about the historical present at all, in fact in my anser the historical present must be treated as an imperfect and, so if he is followed by a subjonctive, yes it must be an imperfect or plqpf. However I was talking about a main verb in the present c. q. imperfect and a dependent clause with a subjonctive like cum + subjonctive. <br /><br />Did I sound that angry? Per omnes deos!<br /><br />Very friendly greetings, <br />MoerusWas that an irritated and angry reply or just a forceful one? <br /><br />Anyway, were you trying to say that a main clause with Historical Present has the imperferct or pluperfect subjunctive in the dependent clause?