ThomasGR wrote:The problem with smoking is that one cannot prove it with sufficiency that it creates diseases that could lead to death.
ThomasGR wrote:We have only statistic analyses, which for a court are not any better than guesses. Otherwise one could go to a civil court and charge tobacco companies for compensations and the costs of medical care.
Sanskrit wrote:They will die sooner
ThomasGR wrote:I've read alkohol kills more people than tobacco, but no one speaks about that.
edonnelly wrote:Smoking: 435,000 deaths (18.1% of all deaths)
Alcohol: 85,000 (includes alcohol-related traffic accidents)
smoking and alchohol are proven to almost always have a *bad* impact on health.
IreneY wrote:We should also make fat people pay for the bills when they have an artery clogged or a heart-attack or anything of the kind shouldn't we?
bellum paxque wrote:I've never heard that drinking in moderation has a bad effect on the health. Are there any references or articles that you could refer me to about this?
Deudeditus wrote:hey, i'm new to this thread.. trespassing, really.Really, what ever happened to people reaping their own consequences? If people want to smoke, then they should have the fortitude to deal with the cancer they inhale. I smoke occasionallly, self-rolled Buglers if you want the full glory of it,
... If'n I get cancer, I don't expect society to deal with it; nor would I want them to.
hmm. just a thought.
-Jon
IreneY wrote:I bet if I think a bit I can find more cases where people get hurt because of what they choose to do. Let them all pay!!!!
On the other hand, it is easy to lead a healthy life without ethanol. It is much more difficult to lead a healthy life without carbohydrates.
GlottalGreekGeek wrote: According to my chemistry teacher, second-hand smoke is even worse than first-hand smoke since it has had time to mix with oxygen, which makes some of the toxic chemicals even more toxic (though whoever recieves the second hand smoke is probably getting a lesser dosage of the smoke than the smoker).
Hey John
let me ask you this: if the next time you went to buy a packet of cigarettes/tobacco and you were asked to sign a form to register that you agreed to pay the medical costs for all smoking related illness you may contract in the future, would you sign it?
IreneY wrote:We should also make fat people pay for the bills when they have an artery clogged or a heart-attack or anything of the kind shouldn't we?
Kopio wrote:....once my school starts back up I have to quit (damn ethics code)
edonnelly wrote:Your school has an ethics code that forbids smoking (even when you are home)? Is such a thing common? I don't think I've ever heard of it before. I'm all for not smoking, but I'm not sure I would consider it "unethical." Sure, if kids would see, that's one thing. But otherwise, does anyone here think it is unethical to smoke?
IreneY wrote:Kopio tsk tsk tsk! At least I hope you are always properly dressed and carry an umbrella when it looks like rain 'cause I refuse point blank to pay for any serious cold you might catch if you refuse to act properly.
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