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Using Greek Characters: Quick Note for Windows Users

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Using Greek Characters: Quick Note for Windows Users

Postby mfranks » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:03 am

Using Greek Characters: Quick Note for Windows Users out there - Windows XP, specifically

Contrary to what one might think, it is very easy to use Greek Characters on your computer - if you are using the Windows Operating System - especially if you are using Windows XP. You simply need to go into the Control Panel and choose the Regional and Language Options which is the little desk globe icon (it's listed alphabetically).

After double-clicking on the icon, choose the language tab then click on the Details button on the upper right of the dialog box. The Settings tab should be the default. Click on the Add button on the right. Then choose Greek Polytonic (this gives you the diacritics as well). You can choose the Greek Latin addionally, if you are trying to represent Latin with the macrons, etc. After choosing these, close the dialog box by clicking the OK button. You will see EL Greek listed in the Installed Services list box under your default Language and keyboard layout. Under the keyboard Icon in the list, it should say Greek Polytonic and the Greek Latin if you added both.

Under Preferences, below the installed services listbox (on the same dialog box) click on the Language Bar. You can choose a number of options:

    - Show the language bar on the desktop
    - Show the language bar as transparent when inactive
    - Show addional language bar icons in the task bar
    - Show text labels on the language bar
These are checkboxes, therefore you can select a combination of options that best suits your needs.

Click the OK button to save your settings.

Next you can assign keys to toggle between your preferred Language and keyboard settings, if you prefer.

After configuring these settings to your liking, click the OK button to save and close the Text Services and Input Languages dialog box. Click OK on the remaining dialog box to close the Regional and Language Options and you are done.

Now you will be able to type Greek with the diacritics to your hearts content.

As a demonstration of this. I will now switch from English to Greek Polytonic with the click of a button and back again after I type out the Greek alphabet as easily as the Roman Alphabet... Here goes...
    αβγδε ζηθικ λμνξο Ï€Ï￾στυ φχψω
and now swiching back...
    abgde zhuik lmnjo prsty fxcv
The above keys match up to the Greek. As you can see, it maps pretty well and makes intuitive sense.

The diacritics rely on using other keys such as the [ ] \ - =. Unfortunately, these don't show up on Textkit... However, they work wonderfully in word and other applications such as email.

There is a downloadable whitepaper which outlines the steps you need to take to use Polytonic Greek from fonts to the necessary keyboard layout in more detail than I provided originally above. There is also support for Polytonic Greek in Windows 2000 - see whitepaper for step by step instructions.

http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/wrg_redirect.asp?URL=polytonic

Table of Contents:
    Chapter I - Greek Polytonic System Setup
    Chapter II - Installing the "Arial Unicode MS Font" in Office suites
    Chapter III - Greek Polytonic Keyboard States
    Chapter IV - Greek Polytonic Key Combinations
I haven't read the entire whitepaper yet... but, it should provide you all the information you need and more! :-)

Enjoy!

Mark
Last edited by mfranks on Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:41 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Postby Rindu » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:13 pm

Hey awesome. However, I don't have Greek Polytonic, just Greek. Any Idea how I can get Greek Polytonic?
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Postby mfranks » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:59 pm

I added a new section to my original post which points to a very good whitepaper which should help you further.

Cheers,

Mark
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Postby Paul » Wed May 17, 2006 2:21 am

test. please ignore
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Re: Using Greek Characters: Quick Note for Windows Users

Postby tonyvirgilius » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:27 pm

For writing Greek I got the "SmartKeys" program from Tavultesoft.

ΔαÏ￾ειου και ΠαÏ￾ασατιδος γιγνονται παιδες δυο, Ï€Ï￾εσβυτεÏ￾ος μεν ΑταξεÏ￾ξης, νεοτεÏ￾ος δε ΚυÏ￾ος.

It doesn't seem to be able to do breathing marks or accents in an email like this, but in Word I can use Palatino Linotype and I can do whatever I want. What is the advantage of using your way? (The details of doing it kind of overwhelmed me). T.
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Postby IreneY » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:37 pm

Swiftnicholas has saved my life (a little Med exaggeration there) with posting this link. Since you have the Greek alphabet it will be easy for you; just type, as I do, normally in Greek and insert only the accented characters (or the ones with a breathing mark)
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Postby tabaquera328 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:27 pm

I have had both Taulsoft and the MS IME on XP with Word for several months for Greek typing. I can easily, with both, insert polytonic accents (acute, grave, circumflex) as well as breathing marks (rough and smooth), but I am unable to insert a combination of accent mark and breathing in XP; easy to do with Traulsoft. I especially have a prob with circumflex + breathing as in "he was" or hen. I bet there is a way that I just have yet to learn as XP is almost ubiquitous.

Thank you much,

Ephraim[/code]
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Postby Socrates the Cyborg » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:08 am

I'm not sure about the relationship between these two, but I just upgraded to IE7 and I can now see polytonic greek even in the text entry window.
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Postby IreneY » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:52 am

tabaquera328 wrote:I have had both Taulsoft and the MS IME on XP with Word for several months for Greek typing. I can easily, with both, insert polytonic accents (acute, grave, circumflex) as well as breathing marks (rough and smooth), but I am unable to insert a combination of accent mark and breathing in XP; easy to do with Traulsoft. I especially have a prob with circumflex + breathing as in "he was" or hen. I bet there is a way that I just have yet to learn as XP is almost ubiquitous.

Thank you much,

Ephraim[/code]


Nice username!!

Is MS IME the one mfranks talks about? The one you install from the Regional and Language Options? If so, open the doc from the link he gave. It has some nice pictures in about page 12 that shows the keys-combos necessary to type any combination you want.

By the way, my mom's printer refused point blank to print the AG diacritics with other systems. I recently upgraded her Windows to XP, installed the Polytonic Greek, it prints perfectly and isn't it amazing how a woman that for the past 10 years is "unable" to remember standard moves within MS Word learnt half of the keystrokes in one afternoon and the other half next day?
I owe you all a huge thanks :D
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Accents

Postby Eudaimonia » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:06 am

Hello; I have followed your very clear directions and had no difficulties getting poly and classical greek fonts. Unfortunately, I can't get my MSW to open, so I can't download and read the white paper. Would anyone be so kind as to indicate the proceedure to aquire accents please? Thanks-Eudaimonia
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Re: Accents

Postby aloimonon » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:00 am

To open office docs, try this also:
http://www.openoffice.org/

I will also post the key combos in case you cannot get it to work:

**Diacritic Marks**

Dasia
Shift+’ (dead key) & letter

Dasia Oxia
Shift+/ (dead key) & letter

Dasia Oxia Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+Shift+/ (dead key) & letter

Dasia Perispomeni
Shift+= (dead key) & letter

Dasia Perispomeni Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+Shift+= (dead key) & letter

Dasia Varia
Shift+\ (dead key) & letter

Dasia Varia Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+Shift+\ (dead key) & letter

Dasia Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+Shift+’ (dead key) & letter

Dialytika Oxia
` (dead key) & letter

Dialytika Perispomeni
AltGr+` (dead key) & letter

Dialytika Varia
Shift+` (dead key) & letter

Makron
- (dead key) & letter

Oxia
΄ (dead key) & letter

Oxia Ypogegrammeni
AltGr+; (dead key) & letter

Perispomeni
[ (dead key) & letter

Perispomeni Ypogegrammeni
AltGr+[ (dead key) & letter

Psili
‘ (dead key) & letter

Psili Oxia
/ (dead key) & letter

Psili Oxia Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+/ (dead key) & letter

Psili Perispomeni
= (dead key) & letter

Psili Perispomeni Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+= (dead key) & letter

Psili Varia
\ (dead key) & letter

Psili Varia Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+\ (dead key) & letter

Psili Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
AltGr+’ (dead key) & letter

Varia
] (dead key) & letter

Varia Ypogegrammeni
AltGr+] (dead key) & letter

Vrachy
Shift+- (dead key) & letter

Ypogegrammeni/Prosgegrammeni*
Shift+[ (dead key) & letter

**Punctuation Marks**

Ano kai kato telia
Shift+; & spacebar

Ano Telia
AltGr+Shift+]

Aposiopitika
AltGr+.

Aristera Eisagogika
AltGr+[ (dead-key) & spacebar

Dexia Eisagogika
AltGr+] (dead-key) & spacebar

Erotimatiko
; & spacebar
ἀλλ' ἔγωγε ἐξ αὐτῶν τούτων μᾶλλον αὐτὸν τεθαύμακα, ὅτι ἔν τε ἀλλοκότοις καὶ ἐν ἐξαισίοις πράγμασι αὐτός τε διεγένετο καὶ τὴν ἀρχὴν διεσώσατο. Dio LXXII 36.3
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Postby Eudaimonia » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:47 am

plukidis

Thank You very much. This is extremely helpful....Eudaimonia
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Postby Skirnir » Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:39 am

Thanks, plukidis, for the tutorial; it has thus far proven most helpful with the input of the previously-troublesome perispomeni+iota subscript (á¿·).

How would one input the macron + oxia, or what would one use in lieu? I ask as my current Classical Greek book 'Athenaze' (1e, 1990) uses it and even though I am not required to know the accents for the Konie Greek class, I am trying to learn them anyway as they may wind up being useful.
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