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Verb FÄ«Å￾ and Subjunctive of result questions

Postby Andrus » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:10 pm

Saluēte omēs,

I have two questions regarding the lesson LXVIII of the book,

http://www.textkit.com/files/BLD_Latin_ ... f#page=177

First in the Appendix the conjugation of the verb FÄ«Å￾ (see the link bellow) hasn’t the forms of the first and second person of the plural in the present active. I presume that means that they don’t exist. Do the other tenses and moods have these forms?

http://www.textkit.com/files/BLD_Latin_ ... f#page=269

The second question is about the difference of the subjunctive of propose and the subjunctive of result. I guess that in most cases the context tells us what is the situation, but in very simple phrases I don’t see how it is possible to know which is used. Like:

“PugnÅ￾ ut uicamâ€￾

Could this mean both “I fight to conquerâ€￾ (propose) and “I fight so I conquerâ€￾ (result)?
Or in this case I would have to write “sÄ«câ€￾ to make it a result clause?

Finally if I did write “sÄ«câ€￾ where should it be in the phrase?

“PugnÅ￾ sÄ«c ut uicamâ€￾ or “SÄ«c pugnÅ￾ ut uicamâ€￾?

As I said it I presume that in most cases the context clarify it, I only asking to know if I’m missing something.

Best regards and thanks for any help.

Andrus
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Re: Verb FÄ«Å￾ and Subjunctive of result questions

Postby Skylax » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:58 pm

Andrus wrote:First in the Appendix the conjugation of the verb FÄ«Å￾ (see the link bellow) hasn’t the forms of the first and second person of the plural in the present active. I presume that means that they don’t exist. Do the other tenses and moods have these forms?

I don't think so : it means that these forms are to be understood in relationship with the other forms from the same paradigm, so FIMUS, FITIS

Andrus wrote:The second question is about the difference of the subjunctive of propose and the subjunctive of result. I guess that in most cases the context tells us what is the situation, but in very simple phrases I don’t see how it is possible to know which is used.


Maybe, but the negation is not the same :
PURPOSE : "I fight not to be conquered" : Pugno ne vincar.

RESULT : "I fought in such a way that I was not conquered" : Ita pugnavi ut non vincerer.

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Postby Andrus » Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:34 pm

Thanks Skylax for your answers.

Then (result clause :lol: ) it is better to review the conjugation of “FÄ«Å￾â€￾ :)

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