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Pharr section 31 line 1

Postby Bert » Tue Aug 19, 2003 10:34 pm

I am reviewing what I have learned so far and I got stuck at section 31 line 1 of Homeric Greek by Pharr.<br />[face=SPIonic]a)ei/domen qea\n qala/sshj deinh=j klaggh=| pollh=|[/face] I am not sure about the correct translation of the dative of the last two words. Is it instrumental, as in - we sing with a great roar-? A roar does not seem a good discription for singing a song or chanting a chant. Is this what it means or did I go wrong somewhere?<br />Thanks.<br />Bert.
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Re:Pharr section 31 line 1

Postby annis » Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:21 pm

A great noise (loud singing), perhaps?<br /><br />I tend to translate this as "shout" when humans are making it.<br /><br />
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Re:Pharr section 31 line 1

Postby Skylax » Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:58 pm

[quote author=Bert de Haan link=board=2;threadid=513;start=0#4452 date=1061332498]<br />Is it instrumental ?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think so. What else could it be ?
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Re:Pharr section 31 line 1

Postby Bert » Fri Aug 22, 2003 1:47 am

[quote author=Skylax link=board=2;threadid=513;start=0#4495 date=1061384308]<br />[quote author=Bert de Haan link=board=2;threadid=513;start=0#4452 date=1061332498]<br />Is it instrumental ?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />I think so. What else could it be ?<br />[/quote]<br /><br />At first I thought that a great roar refered to the terible sea, but then, why the dative? That's when I considered the roaring having to do with singing, which makes sense now that I know that it can mean shout.<br />What else could it be? I don't know; that's why I asked.<br />Someday I'll be as confident as you are. Untill then; thanks for the help!
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