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When does acute change to grave?

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When does acute change to grave?

Postby minus273 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:56 am

On Pharr page 4:
κᾱλαὶ βουλαὶ ἦσαν φίλαι
and
δεινὴ κλαγγὴ ἦν ἐν Χρύσῃ κᾱλῃ
why graves here?
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Postby chad » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:31 am

hi see pharr s550. :)
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Postby minus273 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:27 am

But I haven't see any oxytones here.
βουλαὶ is graved. So is κλαγγὴ.
And esan is circumflex, philai's acute is not on the last syllable.
WHY...
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Postby chad » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:05 am

hi, boulai/ and klaggh/ are oxytones. in a sentence, the acute accents will turn into graves, other than in the situations set out in pharr s550.

watch the accents here:

boulai\ kai\ klaggh/.
klaggh\ kai\ boulai/.

it has to do with sound. the highest pitch in each of these sentences is the last syllable. the pitch in these sentences goes up up up &c to the end.

the grave accent warns you that the next syllable (in the next word) will be on a higher pitch. the acute is the opposite, it warns you that the next syllable will drop to a lower pitch.
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Postby minus273 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:17 am

Oh, got it. Methought :oops: oxytones change oxytones before itself to grave...
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