Since I don't believe in God or anything supernatural that is spoken of in the Bible, whatever rules are set out to us in the Bible are irrelevant to me. The result is that these arbitrary rules written therein, once enforced, oppress me and millions of other people for no logical reason.
I wholly agree with Will on this one. Scarcely anything we do in the modern world is natural, including the convention of marriage itself. When you use the word "natural", you really mean "heterosexual". Your first question suggests that love between elderly, impotent, or sterile couples is unnatural. To your second question, I answer that every type of sexual activity practiced by homosexuals is also practiced by many heterosexuals.
The statement you quoted was aimed at the previous poster who was speaking derogatorily about people who are merely "gay friendly". The way that person said it sounded very much like "n*gger lover" and I cannot regard that as anything other than intolerant.
To your second question, I answer that every type of sexual activity practiced by homosexuals is also practiced by many heterosexuals.
Unless you are a homosexual, I don't think you can have the slightest idea what homosexual love feels like. Homosexuals are not attracted at all to members of the opposite sex - it takes more than being burned by a woman (or man) to do that. A lot, if not most, of homosexuals know or suspect they are homosexuals before they ever have a relationship, which evades your explanation that most are reactionary. Even reactionary relationships are common among heterosexuals.
I don't think anyone here wants to force you to marry gay couples. There are plenty of religion-neutral methods for obtaining legal marriage. I doubt you would even have to recognize it, like the Catholic church with second marriages. It really does not affect you in any way, so why are you forcing other people to adhere to your beliefs? Why don't you yourself respect the First Amendment?
It is good that you do not think of homosexuality as a crime, but what about homosexual sex? It is pretty hard to have an intimate relationship without sex, so by forbidding someone sex you detract a large part from their relationship.
Let's see how much tolerance I get from the tolerant people now.
I hope you don't regard anything I said above as intolerant. If so, I would like to know which.
I support free speech, but have no problem with the idea that shouting "fire" in a crouded theater is punishable. So other civic virtues for which I have some respect aren't absolute, either.
[/quote]Bert wrote:[quote="Emma_85].....I suppose it is a private school, but I would have thought it would be like private companies - even if you have a private company you still just can't discriminate people that work in your company, that's just illegal...
I quess you can compare it to being member of a private club, like a golf club.
You agree to abide by its rules. If one of the rules is to not wear blue jeans, you are likely to get kicked out of the club if you ignore that rule.
It is not a matter of discrimination but a matter of abiding by the rules that you have agreed to.
Episcopus wrote:Anyway the point is homosexuals should not be allowed to marry themselves since it is ODD and ABNORMAL and UNNATURAL and REPULSIVE and even though I don't mind lesbians I believe that marriages between such beings are wrong as are those between males who for some reason are attracted to eachother. Now didn't THAT sound odd? Try and sing that song the boys watch the girls bla bla bla the boys watch the girls go by 'the boys watch the boys watch the boys watch the boys watch the boys go by' argh doesn't work.
Episcopus wrote:I am also happy that most blacks marry blacks and most whites marry whites here. If they all mixed then the purer races of each would disappear that's to say we would have no blacks, we would have no whites, two races which are different and this is a good thing. We would just have a mixture which is boring as less people would be visibly different. Michael Moore's idea of 'let's mix to stop racism!' is foolish and would cause pandemonium in our society.
I believe that everything in the world as the human body has been designed so well, and the pieces that females and males possess indeed fit. I do not know why there exists homosexuals, I do not believe them to be inferior just an irregularity. [...]
There are so many 'normal'/'straight' people who are simply evil and/or uncurably stupid. I do not believe that a good gay person is by any means automatically inferior, it can not be helped, but I am merely stating my opinion that when I am close to a female it seems becoming. There seems a balance, for I am ripped to shreds and am drenched in pectoral scents whereas a girl smells like flowers. It is hard to explain but I tried.
ThomasGR wrote:OK, I'll post my question, even if it has been answered before, but there are already 5 pages full of all kind of ramble, and I don't like to spend my whole day reading.
Why on earth would a gay want to marry another gay?
Cannot they just live together and be happy?
ThomasGR wrote:As a "straight", I will marry a straight woman for no other reasons than getting children and give them the opportunity and ability to have propper care inside a healthy family. Just living together does this not provide.
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