Persica - hexameter

[Kasper]

In ego rus movurus meque edam tot persica multa
In ego rus movurus meque edam tot persica multa
Persica mi decies centenaque millia large
Persica mi decies centenaque millia large

[whiteoctave]

i enjoyed the sense of your couplet/quatrain, K., as far as my tentative translation takes me. as for metre, the first syllable of lines 1 and 2 scans short where a long is need. if movurus (?) is for moturus, your hexameter line becomes a heptameter; even if you scanned the word as an anapaest (uu-) you would have one too many syllables. the last two lines scan fine.

~D

[Kasper]

Ugh - the first syllable is mere stupidity. I mixed it around so many times I missed to most basic thing!!

Moturus (of course not movurus!! Shame on me!) I checked in perseus which indicated the first 2 syllables scan short. I don't see how I have too many syllables. "-que" is elided isn't it?

[whiteoctave]

thanks for the reply, K. i can only imagine your checking of moueo was simply of the first two vowels of the 1st.sg.act.ind., i.e. moueo (which does indeed scan uu-). moturus exhibits a lengthened o (< supine motum w/ long o) and the suffix -urus, which has a long u. if you want an example of its being used in dactylic hexameter, cf. Luc.10.316: quis te tam flentem / moturum totas uiolenti gurgitis iras, / Nile, putet? where moturum is of course a molossus (---). with the elision of que, your first two lines scans thus (/ marks feet and | word division):

u|uu / -|- / --|/ -|-/ -|-|/ -uu|/ -u

which is a rather spondaic version of a dactylic heptameter (something I have not yet come to know).
state what you want the english to be and then possible alterations can be considered, si placet.

~D

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[Kasper]

state what you want the english to be and then possible alterations can be considered, si placet.

~D

Thanks for all your comments again, W. The english is:

I'm moving to the country, gonna eat a lot of peaches
I'm moving to the country, gonna eat a lot of peaches
Millions of peaches, peaches for me
Millions of peaches, peaches for free

[Sebastian Swift]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ha.

Quomodo cachinnos Latine scribere possum?

[Kasper]

As for moturus, however, W, it does seem to be short :

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/fullmorph?lookup=moturus&type=begin&lang=la&searchText=&options=Sort+Results+Alphabetically&formentry=0

[whiteoctave]

môt- signifies a long syllable, -u- is unmarked for length because it is always long in -urus. seriously, moturus scans --u, for the Presidents or otherwise.

~D

[Kasper]

Okay, after the above defeat at the hands of WhiteOctave, let me try again:

Rure habitaturus cenabo persica multa,
persica mi decies centenaque millia, large.

I believe it scans:

- u u | - - | - - | - - | - u u | - u |
- u u | - u u | - u u | - u u | - u u | - - |


Too many spondees perhaps in the first line, but well, ita est.

[Lucus Eques]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ha.

Quomodo cachinnos Latine scribere possum?

Sic, puto.

[whiteoctave]

with the two most common strings of laughter (two and three syllables) the final syllalbe terminates with -ae, thus hahae and hahahae.

~D