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Postby annis » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:46 pm

[face=spionic]h)/dh e(tai=ron e)/xeij a)ll' h(/du gela|=j para/ q' h(=sai:
  nu=n de\ di/dwj xa/ritaj ta\j e)me\ dei= mh\ e)/xein;[/face]
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Postby whiteoctave » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:23 pm

delightful as ever, W. what is your policy on Hermann's bridge? i recently wrote a little 6 line Grk. elegiac on the (prestated) topic of 'junk food'. iambics, however, are on my mind: this morning i had a University exam in which 15 or so lines of english had to be turned into them.

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Postby annis » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:38 pm

whiteoctave wrote: what is your policy on Hermann's bridge?


Well, hell. I'll have to fix that.

i recently wrote a little 6 line Grk. elegiac on the (prestated) topic of 'junk food'.


And how does twinkie scan? Jaffa cake?
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Re: elegeion

Postby annis » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:01 am

How about:

[face=spionic]h)/dh e(tai=ron e)/xeij a)ll' h(dulogei=j para/ q' h(=sai:
  nu=n de\ di/dwj xa/ritaj ta\j e)me\ dei= mh\ e)/xein;[/face]
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Postby Kasper » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:19 am

What's Hermann's bridge anyway :?:
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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Postby annis » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:46 am

Kasper wrote:What's Hermann's bridge anyway :?:


A bridge is a place in the line where a word break is forbidden. Hermann's bridge says I cannot have a break in the fourth foot like so: - u | u. In my case, [face=spionic]h(/du[/face] | [face=spionic]gela=|j[/face] breaks the rule.

The rule isn't absolute, but for a Greek poet to break it is quite rare.
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Postby Kasper » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:26 am

Thanks Wll! (I'll have to try to translate your poem soon!)
“Cum ego verbo utar,” Humpty Dumpty dixit voce contempta, “indicat illud quod optem – nec plus nec minus.”
“Est tamen rogatio” dixit Alice, “an efficere verba tot res indicare possis.”
“Rogatio est, “Humpty Dumpty responsit, “quae fiat magister – id cunctum est.”
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