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From Xenophon's Anabasis, 3.2.10

What is [size=134]οἱπερ[/size]? It's not in middle liddel and the perseus help tool only gives me [size=134]ὁ[/size]

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I believe it means "whither", but I could be wrong, I'm rather new at Greek.
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Post by mingshey »

(many edits)
οἵ is masc. pl. nom. of ὅς.
In Elements, Euclid uses 'ὅπερ' as "the very thing that" as in "ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι(the very thing that needed to be shown)".
But this kind of particles change their meaning abruptly according to the gender, number, and cases. In this case the note in Goodwin says its a causal relative pronoun.
Or you could refer to the White's Illustrated Dictionary of Anabasis, page 161, to find ὅσπερ 'who certainly(rel. pron.)'.

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Post by Emma_85 »

-per sort of emphasises a word. So oiper is the relative pronoun + per like Mingshey said. You could translated it by adding ‘especially’.

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interesting. painful. but interesting.

thanks. ;)
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