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Matt 5:38-48

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Matt 5:38-48

Postby jeidsath » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:05 am

Eugene DeVries has a great reading of Matthew 5:38-48 in a recovered Koine pronunciation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYk7IZPBvU

I've posted a video response:

http://youtu.be/TG6RwlYTtMU

Post some comments to his video! I think that either encouragement in Greek or English would be worthwhile. It's really good, and he should be making more videos.
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Re: Matt 5:38-48

Postby Markos » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:10 am

I agree, it is very good. He is not just reading an Ancient Greek text, but he is acting it out. Having clearly internalized the text himself, he allows us to internalize it better than if he were just reading it straight. You can compare it to the straight reading he did of Luke a year ago. And the input is more comprehensible because of the movements and visual aids.

I did a quick video response myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7MDNf ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Matt 5:38-48

Postby Isaac Newton » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:14 pm

jeidsath wrote:Eugene DeVries has a great reading of Matthew 5:38-48 in a recovered Koine pronunciation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYk7IZPBvU

I've posted a video response:

http://youtu.be/TG6RwlYTtMU

Post some comments to his video! I think that either encouragement in Greek or English would be worthwhile. It's really good, and he should be making more videos.


I hate to say this but IMHO it's rather poor. Here's a good reading, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nwmwi01AWg
καὶ ὑμεῖς τὸ χρῖσμα ὃ ἐλάβετε ἀπ’ αὐτοῦ μένει ἐν ὑμῖν, καὶ οὐ χρείαν ἔχετε ἵνα τις διδάσκῃ ὑμᾶς·
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Re: Matt 5:38-48

Postby jeidsath » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:41 pm

Isaac,

That's a Modern Greek pronunciation. I like it. My favorite Modern Greek reader is Dr. Spiros Zodhiates. I heartily recommend purchasing his audio CD.

However, I support and use a recovered pronunciation:

1) There are too many vowel collisions Modern Greek. It becomes impossible to spell and too many different words sound the same.
2) Poetry does not scan in a Modern Greek pronunciation, as modern Greek has lost both tonal quality and vowel length.

However, I believe that John Stuart Blackie was a great proponent of using the modern pronunciation. As was Heinrich Schiemann. Both believed that it makes learning Greek far easier.

Regardless, as technology makes audio/visual language learning easier, I think that recovered pronunciations of Greek will really take off. Check back and see where we're at in a couple of years!
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Re: Matt 5:38-48

Postby Markos » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:31 pm

Isaac Newton wrote:I hate to say this but IMHO it's rather poor. Here's a good reading, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nwmwi01AWg


You are comparing apples and oranges. As far as straight readings of texts go, the one you reference is very good. And straight readings of texts do have a role in learning Greek.

But Eugene is doing something rather different. His reading is comprehensible to beginners in way that the other one is not.
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Re: Matt 5:38-48

Postby jeidsath » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:41 am

Another video reply from me: http://youtu.be/8Gfq7yGvPig
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