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Postby Junya » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:05 am

Hi.

I want to know something about the usage of ipse.

Can ipse refer to a thing (not a person), as a demonstrative pronoun, not as an adjective attached to a noun ;
and even in oblique cases, or as the object of prepositions ?

I couldn't find such sample in Lewis & Short.
In it there were only a few samples of ipsum quod (meaning : for the reason that ... , in respect of ...)
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Re: about ipse

Postby Qimmik » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:31 am

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Re: about ipse

Postby Junya » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:55 am

Hi Qimmik. :)

298. d. would be what you want me to see.
But in the samples, ipses are all referring to persons.
So I'm still unsure if ipse can be a pronoun of a thing. I can see examples like nunc ipsum in that page, though.
And there were no sample of the usage with prepositions.
So I'm unsure.

Tell me,
if the privious sentence had a word like ager,
can I use ipse and make such a sentence as nocte per ipsum ambulabam, ipsum referring to ager ?
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