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Difference between ubicumque and quacumque

Postby pmda » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:43 pm

This sentence occurs in Orberg LLPSI Cap XLI:

Is Ascanius - ubicumque et quacumque matre natus - Lavinium, opulentam iam (ut tum res erant) urbem, Laviniae reliquit, ipse novam urbem sub Albano monte condidit, quae ab situ urbis in dorso montis 'Alba Longa' appellata est. Id factum est tricesimo fere anno post Lavinium conditum.

What's the difference between ubicumque and quacumque..?
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Re: Difference between ubicumque and quacumque

Postby Qimmik » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:06 pm

Here, ubicumque means "wherever"; quacumque modifies matre - "from whatever mother."

"This Ascanius, wherever he was born, and whoever was his mother [i.e., from whatsoever mother he was born], left Lavinium . . .

Quacumque can also be an adverb meaning "by whatever way," "by whatsover means," etc.

http://perseus.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.15:5.lewisandshort

This is a paraphrase of Livy:

is Ascanius, ubicumque et quacumque matre genitus—certe natum Aenea constat—, abundante Lavini multitudine florentem iam, ut tum res erant, atque opulentam urbem matri seu novercae reliquit, novam ipse aliam sub Albano monte condidit, quae ab situ porrectae in dorso urbis Longa Alba appellata.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text;jsessionid=A319B34DCD171F5C8369E41C2E2DD7BB?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0169%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D3%3Asection%3D3
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Re: Difference between ubicumque and quacumque

Postby pmda » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:12 pm

Thanks Quimmik
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