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Who's The Mother of the gods ?

Postby Junya » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:41 pm

Hi.

In LSJ
me^ttrizo^ http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=mhtrizw&la=greek#lexicon
and
tympanon http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=tumpanon&la=greek#lexicon
you can find a name "the Mother Goddess", "The Mother of the gods".
Who is this ?
Demeter ?
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Re: Who's The Mother of the gods ?

Postby Scribo » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Most likely Rhea, but it would be easier if you gave the passage you're interested in. :)
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Re: Who's The Mother of the gods ?

Postby Junya » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:30 pm

Hi, scribo.

Here, there is a lot of marks of Cybele^. So the Mother Goddess and The Mother of the gods may be Cybele^.
This is a Google Play page, https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=BKACAAAAMAAJ&rdid=book-BKACAAAAMAAJ&rdot=1

page 29 https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=BKACAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&authuser=0&hl=ja&pg=GBS.PR33

See the paragraph 4, Ho^s to^n existameno^n enioi tines aulo^n akouontes.....

The vocabulary list :
+ existameno^n > existe^mi : displace ; change, alter utterly / existanai tina --- drive one out of his senses, confound, excite
(root of ekstasis)
+ aulo^n > aulos : pipe, flute
+ akouontes > akouo^ : hear (+ acc. or geng.)
+ kymbalo^n > kymbalon : cymbal
+ tympano^n > tympanon : kettledrum, such as was used esp. in the worship of the Mother Goddess and Dionysus

+ melous > melos (to) : song / tune
+ enthousio^sin > enthousiao^ : be inspired or possessed by the god, be rapt, be in ecstacy
+ korybantizomenoi > korybantizo^ : purify by Corybantic rites / (pass.) be subject to Corybantic rites
>>> Korybas : Corybant, priest of Cybele in Phrygia ; also associated with Dionysus ; metaphor of drunken persons / enthusiasm
+ Sabazio^i > Sabazios : a Phrygian deity, whose mysteries resembled the rites of Dyonysus
/ later refered to Dionysus himself
+ katochoi > katochos : holding fast / possessing, inspiring / possessed, inspired
+ me^trizontes > me^trizo^ : be possessed by the Mother of the gods
+ hydo^r (to) : water ; with the name of rivers / (generally) liquid, like wine, urine, watery part of milk, semen, serum, etc.
+ piontes > aor. part. of pino^ : drink
+ kathaper : just as
+ Kolopho^ni > Kolopho^n : Colophon
Colophon : wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colophon_(city)%20/%20top,%20summit
+ Klariou > Klarios : of Klaros
Klaros : wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarus


In wikipedia's Klaros page, the sanctuary was in the older times the place of worshiping Cybele^.
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Re: Who's The Mother of the gods ?

Postby Scribo » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:33 pm

Ah you're reading Iamblichus? Interesting. Well he's a late antique neo-Platonist so its hard to be sure who he means by each god but yes Cybele seems like the likeliest candidate. Not only since she was named, but in terms of ecstatic trances, possession and so on she was one of the most popular.
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Re: Who's The Mother of the gods ?

Postby Junya » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:30 pm

in terms of ecstatic trances, possession and so on she was one of the most popular.


Oh, is that so. Then I will search wikipedia and some other sites for Cybele. Thank you, Scribo. :)

That passage is from Porphyrius' letter to Anebo, attached to De Mysteriis by Iamblichus in that book.
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