threewood14 wrote:How do you prove something? Well that's the thing; you cannot prove something. First off lets start with something we all think is true. For example, we are all under the effects of gravity from the earth. Okay, this theory seems very wild at first, but take a while to think this over...Some people might get it and others may not. Back to example...tell me how you know that there really isn't a monkey sitting at the center of the earth actually controling gravity. He is using invisible strings and advanced technology to keep every grain of dust on the ground. Have you ever been to the center of the earth? How do you know that that is not true. How do you know the center of the earth is molten rock? Have you been there? You cannot prove me wrong. Now remember I am not crazy. I'm pretty sure that gravity has nothing to do with giant primeapes. In other words, there is a high probability that that is indeed false. But that is just the thing. If there is a probability that it is false, then there is a probability that it is true. Okay, so now we say, if we had some special instrument to detect living life forms and we observed the earth, there would be nothing in the center. But how do you know that the machine is inaccurate or the monkey has ways of disguise. Again, this can get really strange, but works under everything. Feel free to argue me back because I love that kind of stuff.
Okay, now lets go to Einstein. How do you know that he wasn't just a lunitic and somehow came up with the theory of relativity. How do you know that? His theories may seem true, but they just may not be. You could argue it with the math. Back to Euclid. But how do you know that he wasnt indeed crazy also. In fact, how do you know that you are not crazy yourself??? You can't really know anything and it boils down to one thing...
For the topic of this website, how do you know how to really speak Lain or Greek. You cannot. How do you know that there wasn't a conspiracy to convinve future civilizations like ours a completetly different history because their history was very embarrassing and they dd not want it to be discovered. How do you know that? I do not think anyone today lived at the time of the Roman Empire to tell us. How do you know that all the writing ever found was just pieces of this conspiracy and we never have found real Latin or Greek material. You don't!
The only thing we can possible know 100 percent is the fact that there is probability of inaccuracy.
Again, I'm not trying to convince you that monkeys rule the center of the earth. I'm not telling you that Einstein and Euclid were crazy. I am not telling you that Lain and Greek are false. I am telling you that there is a chance that those things are not true. Of course to us, they probably are true. Look at the past. People knew that the earth was the center of the universe. We have almost proved them wrong according to my statement.
What do you think of that?
If you begin with the idea I know something and set out to prove it, you will realise that you cannot. If you then begin with the idea I know nothing and set out to prove it, you will realise that you cannot.
If that's the case, then how did you know how to prove that you know nothing?threewood14 wrote:you cannot know anything therefore you cannot know how to prove something
threewood14 wrote:The only thing that we can prove is that we know nothing simply because we cannot prove anything else!
It may or may not be the case that we know something: we simply cannot tell. All, some, or none of our beliefs might happen to be true
I am saying that "knowing" something does not necessarily mean it is universally true, only that you have accepted it as truth.
I can and do understand and/or comprehend the fact or idea that all matter is energy. The fact that I understand that is proof that we can know something and proof that threewood's statement is false.
On a side note, the truth for a human can be changed simply by the way it is viewed. The truth is simply a revised perception that one creates for him or herself, it is all literally a matter of perspective.
The truth is something that has been proven to be or something that is accepted as true.
Firstof all, how do you know that what u are saying is what you mean?
One cannot fully understand his language and therefore cannot be certain to what one is saying.
You could argue that the Anglo Saxons said that these words mean wat they intended, but how do you know that a conspiracy was conducted to change the definitions of their meaning?
The point that i am trying to make is that one cannot fully understand reality.
In order to prove something, you must do trial and error an infinite amount of times. One cannot live forever, so it cannot be done.
And believe me when I say I understand General Relativity.
It states that as ones velocity increases,so does their mass. And it says that the father we are from large bodies,time will affect us moreslowly. You cannot travel the speed of light.
I was just using Einstein's famous quote, "It is all realtive."
My friend in school thought that how could we know that if one viewed someone elses perspective, all of the blues would appear orange to them. So different people see different wavelenghts of light. They could compare colors to something else, but that same color would be used so one cannot know the perspective of anoter.
Pretty interesting i think...
threewood14 wrote:My fourth post but wa teever. You said that since they believe that the sun is a star, it is true for them. But this may not be the actual truth. Therefore it is another way of saying belief. In other words, a belief is something someone accepts is true. So of course somethings are true to some people.
What matters is that the current definitions of English words are true and meaningful. These current definitions are accepted by the English speaking population, rendering them true.
No no no my friend. There are an infinite amount of beliefs. In order for there to be an infinite amount of truths or realities, there would have to be an infinite amount of time dimensions which is almost certainly not the case
it could be that once you believe something, a new universe is instantly created to match your belief. you can't disprove that, can you?
but i think it not relevant to our lives
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