from the "Visual Cue Cards to Accompany THE ANCIENT GREEKS SPEAK TO US" :
νεκρὸν ἀφροδίτη διονύσου δίχα καὶ δήμητρος.
νεκρόν: adj. dead, neut. sg.
αφροδίτη: fem. sg.
διονύσου: διόνυσος, masc. sg. gen.
δημητρος: δημήτηρ, fem. sg. gen.
δίχα: in two ways
καί: and
I can hardly find a match of grammatical construction in this proverb.
I think a possible interpretation is νεκρόν is not an adjective. But an acc. of νεκρός. and αφροδίτη in voc. Then it will be like :
"(oh) Aphrodite, death of both Dionysos and Demeter!" , which is still strange to think of.
nekron Afrodith?
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what is that bizarre cuecard mingshey?!?
something like, aphrodite divided into 2 the body (and then something to do with dionysius and demeter?)
aphrodite obviously subject;
[size=150]δίχα[/size] the unaugmented homeric/ionic 3rd person singular imperfect of [size=150]διχᾰω[/size], poetic for [size=150]διχᾰζω[/size];
[size=150]νεκρὸν[/size] the masculine accusative of the (noun) [size=150]νεκρός[/size];
and then the genitive names, which would only make sense if you knew the relevant myth (i have no idea)... sorry i couldn't help...
something like, aphrodite divided into 2 the body (and then something to do with dionysius and demeter?)
aphrodite obviously subject;
[size=150]δίχα[/size] the unaugmented homeric/ionic 3rd person singular imperfect of [size=150]διχᾰω[/size], poetic for [size=150]διχᾰζω[/size];
[size=150]νεκρὸν[/size] the masculine accusative of the (noun) [size=150]νεκρός[/size];
and then the genitive names, which would only make sense if you knew the relevant myth (i have no idea)... sorry i couldn't help...
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It's something I got from the random internet search for something like greek flash cards, and I forgat where I did I get it.chad wrote:what is that bizarre cuecard mingshey?!?
Indeed! voc. without ὦ in such a strange place is odd.something like, aphrodite divided into 2 the body (and then something to do with dionysius and demeter?)
aphrodite obviously subject;
I didn't think of that possibility. Thank you so much.[size=150]δίχα[/size] the unaugmented homeric/ionic 3rd person singular imperfect of [size=150]διχᾰω[/size], poetic for [size=150]διχᾰζω[/size];
Don't be sorry. It helped very much. I think dionysos represents wine and demeter grain. (now, whose body is it? of Venus herseelf? )The cue card has a trophy(of wine, methinks) and a sack of grain on the other side of a wall. A statue of venus lying on this side of the wall.[size=150]νεκρὸν[/size] the masculine accusative of the (noun) [size=150]νεκρός[/size];
and then the genitive names, which would only make sense if you knew the relevant myth (i have no idea)... sorry i couldn't help...
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Look. I found it! It was in "Greek Teachers' Corner" which I found out by googling with "ancient Greek Teaching materials". (I don't remember if it was in the Outside Links forum.) See "Cue Cards" on the website.chad wrote:what is that bizarre cuecard mingshey?!?
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Wow, thanks!. That makes it much more clear! And, alas, why didn't I look closely at my middle liddell, saying that, with genitive, δίχα means "apart from, differently from, unlike, against the will of, besides, except, ..."?Ptolemaios wrote:According to the Thesaurus Linguae Graecae this is from Michael Apostolius Paroemiogr., Collectio paroemiarum: Centuria 12 section 2 line 1.
I think it means something like "Without Dionysos and Demeter Aphrodite is (just) a dead body."
Ptolemaios
And it should be interpreted, "Without food and drink, love is a dead body"?
But then, how come nekron is in neuter accusative? If it is a noun in nominative, why isn't it nekros? Is there a noun like σῶμα abbreviated?
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