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Postby Jeff Tirey » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:15 am

Hello Textkitters

I'm sorry for the forum being down.

It's entirely my fault because I didn't keep the phpbb2 forum script updated which led to the script-kiddie hack last week. We should be in better shape with the new phpbb3. I turned the forum on as quickly as possible to prevent additional down-time, but please be aware I'll be making additional forum updates.

Here's what's worth noting:

The Good:
- new phpbb3 script with some nice features
- i'm around and energized to get the forum in shape
- getting the forum into phpbb3 is the first step needed towards a final Drupal migration. We have the drupal version of Textkit largely ready to go but the forum was a roadblock.

The Bad:
- this backup is from late October, we will most likely miss the last 3 weeks of posting.
- i'm struggling to figure out how to convert the Greek SPIonic into Unicode. The forum conversion script did not do so well. I could use help if anyone has skills in this area.

Thanks,

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Amadeus » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:32 pm

Ho ho! Nice look! 8)

Congratulations Jeff for taking TextKit to the next level. We definitely needed a change (which, btw, seems to be something in vogue right now). Hope to see everyone else back here soon.

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Jeff Tirey » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:19 pm

Hi Amadeus,

I'm happy to see you like the change. This was long overdue. The next step will be to migrate phpbb3 to a drupal based forum. Once that's done, we can launch the new site which is currently at http://new.textkit.com. Already, we have all the Textkit books migrated http://new.textkit.com/greek_grammar.php
So the roadblocks in my way are migrating the forum and then really rolling up my sleeves and customizing the drupal app.

The drupal version will unleash this community in some neat ways.

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby NuclearWarhead » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:58 pm

I would suggest that the subsilver theme is installed too. I never really liked the prosilver theme in phpbb3.

As for the Drupal site, I would suggest keeping the old top banner. The Drupal site with just the solid green banner is a bit ... dull ...:) I like the old banner better.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Jeff Tirey » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:34 pm

agreed. the current look of the textkit site through drupal is weak. I want the template to keep some of the elements of whitespace/web 2.0 but it needs a snazzy header.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby dlb » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:33 am

Like the new layout, capabilities, ...
but,
How about a more inviting color scheme :( ?
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Re: New Forum Board - Lost November

Postby Interaxus » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:27 am

Has November been lost forever then? :shock: No backups? For instance , all those brilliant English-Latin parallel texts from Adrianus and the others - lost for ever...?!!? Ye gods! :x I only hope (against hope) that those November posters kept backups of their own and may be kind enough to re-post a few of them.

Oh well, worse things have happened I suppose (Bamiyan, Alexandrian library, etc).

But why this emphasis on image rather then content? Who are the prospects? Is blue superior to green, right to left?

We live in vulnerable times. Bad moment for hubris. :(

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Jeff Tirey » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:17 pm

Interaxus wrote:Has November been lost forever then? :shock: No backups? For instance , all those brilliant English-Latin parallel texts from Adrianus and the others - lost for ever...?!!? Ye gods! :x I only hope (against hope) that those November posters kept backups of their own and may be kind enough to re-post a few of them.
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Hi Interaxus,
I have them. For me to restore the lost November posts, I'll need to import them manually. This normally would not have been that big of a deal but I have made the situation far worse by being absent. The hack happened before Thanksgiving holiday and I was not aware of it for just over a week which meant that the hacked files made their way into the weekly backup. The hack, as best I can tell, left the posts alone but destroyed the table structure.

So it will take me some time to to get them back in, but it will happen. I do apologize to everyone here for the disruption.

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Interaxus » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:15 pm

And I apologize for my over-hasty reaction. Nice to know the hacker spared the goodies. Take your time, Jeff. No rush. Vivat Textkit!

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby adrianus » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:52 pm

Thanks for all your hard work on our behalf, Jeff.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby jk0592 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:44 am

This is a very nice change from the old forum layout. Even though we are preoccupied with ancient languages, it is refreshing to finally have a modern look and feel to this forum.
I am very happy, and congratulate all of you who have worked for the benefit of this forum users.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Boban » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:23 pm

I liked old forum but I don't think this is a bad change.

Is it possible to have green colors again maybe?
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Jeff Tirey » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:30 pm

Hi,

i'll be editing the template this weekend to bring it inline with Textkit green.

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby demetri » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:54 pm

jeff wrote:Hi,

i'll be editing the template this weekend to bring it inline with Textkit green.

jeff


Hey, thanks for that effort. I sort of miss the green. I'm not sure why; perhaps I'm a traditionalist. :)
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby edonnelly » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:45 pm

demetri wrote:Hey, thanks for that effort. I sort of miss the green. I'm not sure why; perhaps I'm a traditionalist. :)


Same here. I liked the images across the top, too.
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DownLOEBables - Free books from the Loeb Classical Library
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby cantator » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:01 pm

Just a quick note of sempiternal thanks for the Textkit site and its tireless maintainers and moderators. The new board looks fine too. :)
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Bert » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:10 am

A small complaint: I find the red lined icon that says there is a new post not all that distinct from the blacked lined one. If it takes hundreds of lines of programming to change that, don't worry about it, but if it is just a matter of a little toggle switch, so to speak, to make a clearer distinction than please do. Thanks a lot.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby edonnelly » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:46 pm

Bert wrote:A small complaint: I find the red lined icon that says there is a new post not all that distinct from the blacked lined one. If it takes hundreds of lines of programming to change that, don't worry about it, but if it is just a matter of a little toggle switch, so to speak, to make a clearer distinction than please do. Thanks a lot.


Hey, Bert - How do you look for new posts here? Do you ever use the following link:

http://www.textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/search.php?search_id=newposts

For me, it takes me right to a list of all the new posts since I last logged in. I can't remember the last time I ever even looked at the regular board index. The other nice thing is that when you do click on one of the new threads, there's a link right at the top of it to jump you to the "first unread post." Probably there's a way to merge that all into one step, but it's still pretty fast the way it is now.

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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Bert » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:40 am

Hey, thanks. That's great.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Bert » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:21 am

Works great.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby adrianus » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:27 pm

Salve Jeff/Galfride
Things that I noticed that I wondered about: (1) the Forum search tool doesn't work and (2) the diacritics on archived posts don't display properly (I have a lot in my Latin). With respect to 2, will I edit my old posts or is there an automated fix to come?
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Essorant » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:37 am

I hope you may go back to the original textkit.com as much as possible. This style and colour doesn't have the uniqueness that the original did.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Essorant » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:18 pm

i'll be editing the template this weekend to bring it inline with Textkit green.


Isn't the forum going to be edited anymore to its original Textkit green?
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Borakovelover » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:42 am

Boban wrote:I liked old forum but I don't think this is a bad change.

Is it possible to have green colors again maybe?

I guess so, but pink would be cool, lol....
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby Antonios » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:27 pm

I just came back to the forum recently after a long absence and was dissapointed to find that many posts I used to be able to find through keyword searches cannot be retrieved. In fact, none of my searches pull up posts older than December 2008. Is this going to be fixed?

Oddly enough I can search by user and pull up old posts, but I'm usually not concerned with the user name (except in a few exceptional cases.)
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby edonnelly » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:31 pm

Antonios wrote:I just came back to the forum recently after a long absence and was dissapointed to find that many posts I used to be able to find through keyword searches cannot be retrieved. In fact, none of my searches pull up posts older than December 2008. Is this going to be fixed?

Oddly enough I can search by user and pull up old posts, but I'm usually not concerned with the user name (except in a few exceptional cases.)


I have no idea what will or won't be fixed, but I have found that the best way to search is to just use google, and put:

site:textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/

into the search box as the first part of the search, then add whatever you are searching for into the rest of the search box.
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Re: New Forum Board

Postby christophe » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:42 pm

For those who would like to hear a real conversation in ancient Greek, a new video has been posted in the site poliskoine.com. It is worthwhile having a look at it.

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