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Postby Eureka » Sat May 15, 2004 10:58 am

I studied "Classical Societies" for a semester in high school. From what I remember*, the textbook divided Ancient Greece between Dorians and Ionians. It wasn't until I started looking at the language that I learnt there was a third race.

My question is, can anyone direct me to website that has a map showing the three races? Or, could anyone give me a basic rundown of whereabouts the Aeolians lived?





*My memory might be fuzzy. :)
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Postby annis » Sat May 15, 2004 12:07 pm

I'd hesitate to call them different races. Just speakers of different dialects.

The bottom of this page has a somewhat garish map of the dialects which seems to be basically correct.
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Postby Eureka » Sun May 16, 2004 11:11 am

Thanks for the link, Annis. I see now that my textbook simply lumped Dorians and Aeolians togeather.

However, I think saying 'race' is appropriate. Thucydides states that Dorian Cities had Dorian constitutions, sang Dorian warsongs and tended to make alliances with other Dorian cities (simillarly for Ionians). So their differences went beyond language.

'Race' is a problematic word, because it is a very unscientific concept; so if you try to come up with a complete definition of it, you'll just give yourself a headache. :)
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Postby annis » Sun May 16, 2004 11:05 pm

Eureka wrote:Thanks for the link, Annis. I see now that my textbook simply lumped Dorians and Aeolians togeather.


I'm sure Alcaeus is rolling in his grave to hear it.

However, I think saying 'race' is appropriate. Thucydides states that Dorian Cities had Dorian constitutions, sang Dorian warsongs and tended to make alliances with other Dorian cities (simillarly for Ionians). So their differences went beyond language.


How about genus? :)
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Postby Eureka » Mon May 17, 2004 8:14 am

annis wrote:I'm sure Alcaeus is rolling in his grave to hear it.
If Alcaeus wants revenge, he'll have to wait until after Homer has finished dragging Wolfgang Peterson's carcass behind his chariot.


But anyway... The book had racial maps, and compaired them to political maps (showing the Spartan and Athenian alliances) to show the corelation. I think that's why they lumped the races togeather.
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